Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 7:13 AM
WEll, maybe he will listen to saner heads and get on with the business of running this country instead of worrying if someone is reporting what he does. Can you imagine you or I did something that put us in a bad light, and someone told others about it ...and what we did was criticized? And we suddenly tried to demean the person who told others what we did...even though they reported a fact? Even my kids have enough sense not to do that. If my grandson leaves the yard and my granddaughter tells me him, my grandson isn't stupid enough to try to demean his sister as a way of diverting what he did. I can't understand why some liberals can't seem to grasp this simple concept.
He will redeem himself because the people that voted him in WANT to believe in him. They WANT him to be their saviour from their lives. He has convinced them that he will change everything and make it all better.
He can't possibly do this as President. It's not within his power. As President.
But he talks a good game. And people will see the rising home prises as a direct result of Obama's influnce, not a natural ebb and flow of an economy.
People see what they want to see. My "Obama handshake" video proves that. ;)
Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM
And who is going to vote him in again? Liberals? They never voted him in to begin with. Just watch ALL the news stations, and Moderates, independants, Seniors are all turning away. That's why in 10 months his approval has plummeted. You can't have Liberals going to town hall meetings and trashing the majority of seniors who oppose his Health Care. You can't call the Moderates and Independents who voted him in "crazies" when they opposed the massive spending. I live in a VERY Democratic Town (Hell, Michigan is a Dem State), and I'm hearing from alot of people how they are disenchanted with him now. As for promises...just Google it sometime "Obama's Broken Campaign Promises". Hell, one website lists 500 of them. And even if a third of them are valid...THAT'S A LOT for any politician. It makes it look like he just willy nilly promised this and that to get elected. Goes to character. I know every politician does it to some degree but this is the first time I have see a rabid defense of it, and it's not defendable by pointing to everyone else. Kind of like the speeder who gets pulled over and points at everyone else. We're talking about you buddy, not everyone else. I'm not sure if the site is conservative...but it makes no difference...if it's true, it's true, no matter who says it. That's like me, who did not support Obama, making a statement of fact and a liberal shouting "Yeah, you didn't support Obama, so consider the source"...That is so laughable, because a fact is a fact.
Reply by paisan37GOLD on October 29, 2009 at 9:18 PM
well we'll see what happens. obama was elected based on the economy..and i think his relelection will be tied to the economy also. if things are better in 2012 i imagine he'll get relelected. its way to early to be writing him off. reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983 and then the economy improved and he won in a landslide. so you never know whats going to happen
Reply by FrankCNYGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
Reply by kwmmaGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:12 AM
FrankCNY wrote:Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:23 AM
FrankCNY wrote:Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
If the unemployment is still this terrible, my prediction is that he will be beat by a third party candidate. You should read what George Washington had to say about only 2 parties domination....it's happened. All you need is someone not affiliated with good old boy politics, and people will elect him if he has a vision and not just a slogan.
Reply by kwmmaGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Sirfitz wrote:
If the unemployment is still this terrible, my prediction is that he will be beat by a third party candidate. You should read what George Washington had to say about only 2 parties domination....it's happened. All you need is someone not affiliated with good old boy politics, and people will elect him if he has a vision and not just a slogan.
I agree. We need a *clear vision* for the country! :)
Reply by FrankCNYGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 1:15 AM
kwmma wrote:
FrankCNY wrote:Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
We need a new vision for this country!
You know what, I tend to agree..but who?? Ron Paul?? Although I agree with some of what he says, he's a little too kooky for me.
CoconutDave is in the singing chat room every afternoon i'm free... join me?
FrankCNY wrote:Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
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Reply by ShyLynnGOLD on October 28, 2009 at 10:14 PM
ShyLynn suscription cancelled today.............................While I'd love to believe that Fitzy, have you not learned yet that "Lord Obama "can do no wrong? He will redeem himself.
Call it a prediction...
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Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 7:13 AM
WEll, maybe he will listen to saner heads and get on with the business of running this country instead of worrying if someone is reporting what he does.
Can you imagine you or I did something that put us in a bad light, and someone told others about it ...and what we did was criticized? And we suddenly tried to demean the person who told others what we did...even though they reported a fact?
Even my kids have enough sense not to do that. If my grandson leaves the yard and my granddaughter tells me him, my grandson isn't stupid enough to try to demean his sister as a way of diverting what he did. I can't understand why some liberals can't seem to grasp this simple concept.
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Reply by ShyLynnGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM
ShyLynn suscription cancelled today.............................True Fitzy, true.
He will redeem himself because the people that voted him in WANT to believe in him. They WANT him to be their saviour from their lives. He has convinced them that he will change everything and make it all better.
He can't possibly do this as President. It's not within his power. As President.
But he talks a good game. And people will see the rising home prises as a direct result of Obama's influnce, not a natural ebb and flow of an economy.
People see what they want to see. My "Obama handshake" video proves that. ;)
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Reply by paisan37GOLD on October 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM
and those who didnt vote for him already have their minds made up too
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Reply by ShyLynnGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM
ShyLynn suscription cancelled today.............................He is making good on the campaign promises that we were most against.
Nothing he's done is changing my mind in the slightest. He is proving himself to be exactly who he appears to be.
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Reply by paisan37GOLD on October 29, 2009 at 11:59 AM
so you admitt he;s making good on his campaign promises. then that must be why those who voted for him are still supporting him
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Reply by ShyLynnGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 12:01 PM
ShyLynn suscription cancelled today.............................Oh sure he's making good on some of them. Really important ones like making partial birth abortion legal.
Good stuff! 4 more years!
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Reply by paisan37GOLD on October 29, 2009 at 12:02 PM
hopefully 8
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Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 8:49 PM
And who is going to vote him in again? Liberals? They never voted him in to begin with. Just watch ALL the news stations, and Moderates, independants, Seniors are all turning away.
That's why in 10 months his approval has plummeted.
You can't have Liberals going to town hall meetings and trashing the majority of seniors who oppose his Health Care.
You can't call the Moderates and Independents who voted him in "crazies" when they opposed the massive spending.
I live in a VERY Democratic Town (Hell, Michigan is a Dem State), and I'm hearing from alot of people how they are disenchanted with him now.
As for promises...just Google it sometime
"Obama's Broken Campaign Promises".
Hell, one website lists 500 of them. And even if a third of them are valid...THAT'S A LOT for any politician. It makes it look like he just willy nilly promised this and that to get elected. Goes to character.
I know every politician does it to some degree but this is the first time I have see a rabid defense of it, and it's not defendable by pointing to everyone else. Kind of like the speeder who gets pulled over and points at everyone else. We're talking about you buddy, not everyone else.
I'm not sure if the site is conservative...but it makes no difference...if it's true, it's true, no matter who says it.
That's like me, who did not support Obama, making a statement of fact and a liberal shouting "Yeah, you didn't support Obama, so consider the source"...That is so laughable, because a fact is a fact.
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Reply by paisan37GOLD on October 29, 2009 at 9:18 PM
well we'll see what happens. obama was elected based on the economy..and i think his relelection will be tied to the economy also. if things are better in 2012 i imagine he'll get relelected. its way to early to be writing him off. reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983 and then the economy improved and he won in a landslide. so you never know whats going to happen
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Reply by FrankCNYGOLD on October 29, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Here's the problem for Republicans, no matter how low the approval ratings for Obama fall, approval ratings for Republicans are in the toilet, in other words they've got nobody to challenge Obama. Who's gonna run, Palin?? Don't make me laugh!!!
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Reply by kwmmaGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:12 AM
We need a new vision for this country!
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Reply by SirfitzGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:23 AM
If the unemployment is still this terrible, my prediction is that he will be beat by a third party candidate. You should read what George Washington had to say about only 2 parties domination....it's happened.
All you need is someone not affiliated with good old boy politics, and people will elect him if he has a vision and not just a slogan.
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Reply by kwmmaGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM
I agree. We need a *clear vision* for the country! :)
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Reply by FrankCNYGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 1:15 AM
You know what, I tend to agree..but who?? Ron Paul?? Although I agree with some of what he says, he's a little too kooky for me.
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Reply by kwmmaGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 2:01 AM
Think younger with the same last name. :)
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Reply by CoconutDaveGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM
CoconutDave is in the singing chat room every afternoon i'm free... join me?Nah, try Michael Bloomberg...
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Reply by CoconutDaveGOLD on October 30, 2009 at 2:36 PM
CoconutDave is in the singing chat room every afternoon i'm free... join me?No, wait, is he a Democrat or Republican this week? So hard to keep track...
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