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jason

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Posted by jasonSTAFF on September 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM

jason somehow found his good voice today.

Hello all,

I'm about to allow all the new testers to have access to the stereo recorder. There is a lot of you, and so this thread needs to be kept CLEAN and ORGANIZED or else I will get lost. :)

So, as of today there is a new stereo recorder (for you older testers) that handles the timing somewhat better. Also, there is a new number on the bottom right while you record. It represents milliseconds, and usually should be near zero. Anywhere between -40 and +40 is normal.

If you do a recording and the sync 'drifts' meaning you can line up the sync at the beginning but not at the end, please note what the red number was in the recorder.

Use this thread to post feedback about the recorder, and the preview player. Don't post a link to every song you do here, there are other threads for that.

Note that the effects might not work after the recording is saved. There are some other known problems too. I'm focusing on the recorder and preview player at the moment.

I'm REALLY counting on help from the existing testers to educate the new testers on how to use this system. The biggest thing to remember is that if you can hear music WITHOUT the Enable Music selected, then you shouldn't enable it. Go back to your Windows mixer and select the Mic only, not the music/mic mix.

IF YOU AREN'T A TESTER, DON'T POST HERE, PLEASE!! Thanks.

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DIMMPLES

Reply by DIMMPLESGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 4:26 PM

ok Jason sounds good i been haveing Bad laggin on mine so i havent used it in few days lol just makes me mad i have been useing Mono,but im sure you guys are working your best to fix theses things;) i will help the newbbie stereo peeps lol......

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caterina

Reply by caterinaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 4:52 PM

caterina gawn......

Ok......Thanks Jason...I'll go give it a go now..... :-s

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pontypridd

Reply by pontypriddGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:01 PM

I just done Streets of London see what you think??

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caterina

Reply by caterinaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:02 PM

caterina gawn......

Right.....Hmmmmmm.....well.......clicking on enable makes no difference now to the sound for me.....and the player does not change from saying this recorder will be mono...to this recording will be stereo... On the old player...before the enable was clicked...the track was always a lot quieter........now im just confused! lol................

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LaNell

Reply by LaNellGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:05 PM

LaNell says "tgif!!!!!!!!"

jason wrote:I'm REALLY counting on help from the existing testers to educate the new testers on how to use this system. The biggest thing to remember is that if you can hear music WITHOUT the Enable Music selected, then you shouldn't enable it. Go back to your Windows mixer and select the Mic only, not the music/mic mix.

I would love to be able to help others, but I've never been able to select the Mic only, on my computer. It will not let me un-tick the stereo mix, either. (in my volume properties)
I was also under the impression, that if we didn't select "Enable Music," that our recording would be mono. It even says that on the preview player.
I'm confused again. I'll check the new recorder/player out, though...when I get home from work & go from there. :)
Good luck, everyone! Hang on for the ride! :))

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caterina

Reply by caterinaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM

caterina gawn......

Ahaaaaaaaaaa!!! I see what you mean about only having mic only.......d'oh! silly me! :) Its working again! but still says recording will be mono...... :-S

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cazzaa

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Reply by cazzaaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:11 PM

so you tick enable stereo is that right? or untick it?

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caterina

Reply by caterinaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM

caterina gawn......

well he said not to click it.......Im still trying to work out why that is lol........Im finding very little difference whether its clicked or not :-s and i only have the mic only box ticked :-s

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Marlene

Reply by MarleneGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM

I tired it out and Stereo sounds amazing! only problem i'm having is that its lagging like crazy!! It keeps skipping.

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SweetTexasRose

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Reply by SweetTexasRoseGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM

SweetTexasRose march 8th..going on a 7 day cruise..woohoo..57 days b4 i leave :)

So far I have had the lagging problem also, But it doesnt seem to be to bad

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lily04

Reply by lily04GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:23 PM

Hi

For the new testers.

The easiest way to understand what you're doing is, you're recording your vocals to add to the stereo track. This is why you want your recorder (via the wizard) to be set for mic only.

I've not tested the newer version yet, but, if you find the stereo track is burying your vocals too much, raise the recording level on your player to record your vocals at a higher level. However, this may not be an issue with the new recorder.

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paintergirl

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Reply by paintergirlGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM

lily04 wrote:Hi

For the new testers.

The easiest way to understand what you're doing is, you're recording your vocals to add to the stereo track. This is why you want your recorder (via the wizard) to be set for mic only.

I've not tested the newer version yet, but, if you find the stereo track is burying your vocals too much, raise the recording level on your player to record your vocals at a higher level. However, this may not be an issue with the new recorder.


that's exactly my problem right now..the music buries my voice..I'll try that thanks

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CanadaBlonde

Reply by CanadaBlondeGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:32 PM

CanadaBlonde loves the songs on feature page today....woohoo!

Mine is not sounding like Stereo, I must be doing something wrong? I have "Stereo Backing Track" ticked on the Recorder and Mic ticked, Stereo unticked in my settings, is that correct?

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paintergirl

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Reply by paintergirlGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM

paintergirl wrote:
lily04 wrote:Hi

For the new testers.

The easiest way to understand what you're doing is, you're recording your vocals to add to the stereo track. This is why you want your recorder (via the wizard) to be set for mic only.

I've not tested the newer version yet, but, if you find the stereo track is burying your vocals too much, raise the recording level on your player to record your vocals at a higher level. However, this may not be an issue with the new recorder.


that's exactly my problem right now..the music buries my voice..I'll try that thanks

that helps but wish voice was a bit louder

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mackys101

Reply by mackys101 on September 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM

http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/c0dcef81
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/bdcbff91
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/c4fd21b1

This recording came out good with no delay but my voice volume is too low :} and one thing i notice that everytime im making a new recording i need to uncheck the Stereo Backing Track box then check it again to hear the stereo sound if u dont do that it will be a mono playback its defaulting automatically i think thats a bug.

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cazzaa

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Reply by cazzaaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM

ok well seeing as my mic goes into a mixer i haveta have my settings as analog mix instead of what you hear mic only dont pick up mic but analog does i dont have music running through mixer just mic

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CanadaBlonde

Reply by CanadaBlondeGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 5:46 PM

CanadaBlonde loves the songs on feature page today....woohoo!

mackys101 wrote:http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/c0dcef81
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/bdcbff91

This two came out good with no delay but my voice volume is too low :} and one thing i notice that everytime im making a new recording i need to uncheck the Stereo Backing Track box then check it again to hear the stereo sound if u dont do that it will be a mono playback its defaulting automatically i think thats a bug.

Oh, I just tried that (unticking and then re-ticking Stereo Backing Track) and it got Stereo working again, thanks! :)

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SingingFoolForYa

Reply by SingingFoolForYaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I'm going to give it a shot.

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Mike_Prather

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Reply by Mike_PratherGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM

Yep that's the ticket :) .... Now If I could just improve my own timing lol.

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LoveUAlways

Reply by LoveUAlwaysGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM

LoveUAlways needs her friends...gonna crush hard tonight!!!

jason wrote:Hello all,

.... There is a lot of you, and so this thread needs to be kept CLEAN and ORGANIZED or else I will get lost. :)

...

Use this thread to post feedback about the recorder, and the preview player. Don't post a link to every song you do here, there are other threads for that.

...

...

IF YOU AREN'T A TESTER, DON'T POST HERE, PLEASE!! Thanks.

Please note song links should not be posted here.

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susie1953

Reply by susie1953GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM

susie1953 *~~ day 39 as a non smoker!~~*

I tried this one.....not sure if I hear any difference tho....I unchecked stereo and checked mic on my recording control. Also had to adjust the timing to -2
Streets of Bakersfield

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wingy_4

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Reply by wingy_4GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM

LOL i've been testing and recorded 3 songs but posted them in the old feedback thread, doh ((.

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mackys101

Reply by mackys101 on September 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM

oops my bad ^^ wrong post please move my first post in the right thread. thanks...

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ALLY4U

Reply by ALLY4UGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM

hi ev1
is my first time i test the stereo reccord
i just reccorded this song

not really sure how is sound is why i wanted post here even
thx for you list
hugssssssss


http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchAndListen/play/bd109a649

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LoveUAlways

Reply by LoveUAlwaysGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:21 PM

LoveUAlways needs her friends...gonna crush hard tonight!!!

LOL...here's the thread to post songs...I hope y'all love stereo as much as I do...I'm sure most of us "older testers" (thanks a lot Jason)...will be happy to help out with any questions.

http://www.singsnap.com/snap/forum/topic/b42a6a3?last_page=1#last_reply

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LoveUAlways

Reply by LoveUAlwaysGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM

LoveUAlways needs her friends...gonna crush hard tonight!!!

*sigh* I give up. Good luck keeping the thread clean, Jason!

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mousy

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Reply by mousyGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:23 PM

well-- so far I'm not having any problems-- I hooked up my usb mic and recorded one song--as long as I hit the stereo button -- the music was mixed --with no problems---- as I always have to adjust my music n mic so it mixes properly --that part didnt bother me----
the words n music stayed in snyc---- havent tried to do any duets or harmonys yet-- -thats where I think I will have problems with the timing n sync....

the only song I have public is the Roy Orbison verion of* I drove all night*

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8ntrite

Reply by 8ntriteGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Thank you for allowing me the oppertunity to test. The first song I did was adjusted -4 and the only part of the song it actually matched up to was the middle the begining I was to fast for the music, and the end I ended up being to slow. If that makes any sense to you at all. The second song I did with the adjustment -2 and it was spot on the entire song.

Thank you Dimples(Amy) for your help :)

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Brillo999

Reply by Brillo999GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM

flagging this and will be back in a min

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jason

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Reply by jasonSTAFF on September 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM

jason somehow found his good voice today.

I never said not to check the stereo box in the recorder.. for sure, keep it checked!

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Binky-

Reply by Binky-GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM

Binky- is feeling better yeah, might be able sing soon too :p

Hi thanks for this thread so we can try to help one another Im gonna go try it in a few... LaNell i think we have simalar(atroishish spelling) :P sound cards I have figured how to just have mic enabled and no stereo mix I'll pm ya or u do when you home thanks.......

If you want to POST a SONG please do it at
-----> Stereo Tester's Song Posting <--------(Bubba1's Thread)
or LaNell's Thread
--->Any Song Request for Stereo Tester's <-----
Are You a Stereo Tester?

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Binky-

Reply by Binky-GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Binky- is feeling better yeah, might be able sing soon too :p

CanadaBlonde wrote:Mine is not sounding like Stereo, I must be doing something wrong? I have "Stereo Backing Track" ticked on the Recorder and Mic ticked, Stereo unticked in my settings, is that correct?

that sounds right but sometimes it doesnt sound stereo really till playback and even then it had been changing slightly and timing was an issue for some.....

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SingingFoolForYa

Reply by SingingFoolForYaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:05 PM

I just tried a song and I had no probs at all. The Recorder and preview player work well. I only had to play with the voice and song to get so I could hear me well. I kept the stereo box checked.

I really like the Millisecond counter on the bottom right. I tried to record once and it never got lower that -67 so I just tried again and it dropped down to between 0 and like -27.

I never had to adjust the timing up or down.

I'll try another song and see what happens.

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Mike_Prather

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Reply by Mike_PratherGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:08 PM

Binky- wrote:
CanadaBlonde wrote:Mine is not sounding like Stereo, I must be doing something wrong? I have "Stereo Backing Track" ticked on the Recorder and Mic ticked, Stereo unticked in my settings, is that correct?

that sounds right but sometimes it doesnt sound stereo really till playback and even then it had been changing slightly and timing was an issue for some.....

For me I had to "unselect" stereo backing track and then reselect it. .. You'll notice the bar reload.

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Brillo999

Reply by Brillo999GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM

hi all just for info i had a few probs getting the stereo to work , but i found that if you unclick stereo then click it again that solved it for me , but i have to do it on every song i try or it goes mono again ...also i use line in not mic in so i ticked line in .... my timing had to be set to 1 and i had to bring the voice up a fair bit ... apart from a rocky start its now workable for me i hope.

hope this is the kinda of feedback you need :)

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cazzaa

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Reply by cazzaaGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM

what you had to pan voice up?

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Brillo999

Reply by Brillo999GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:23 PM

cazzaa wrote:what you had to pan voice up?

yeah i had to pan the voice up a lot

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charis28

Reply by charis28 on September 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM

hi i have the new recorder cant get stereo as am blue, but have been able to sing on vista laptop with good clarity which i could not on old recorder so am very pleased

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ALLY4U

Reply by ALLY4UGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM

hobo56

Reply by hobo56GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:38 PM

jason i havnt had any success at any songs saving in stereo they say mixing error on every one of them thanks for any help .all songs that save have been in mono only as soon as i hit enable it will show the error message later in the song posting

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mackys101

Reply by mackys101 on September 2, 2008 at 7:41 PM

if your playback is defaultin in mono even though the stereo is enable just disable the stereo then enabled it again it would work hope this would help :D.

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sunshinecup

Reply by sunshinecupGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:43 PM

sunshinecup missing my snuggle bunny :o(

UGGGG! :oP

Ok I get the music in sinct in either the beginning or the end of the song, but not through the whole dang thang.

I have my volume controlled properties set to mic only not stereo mix. This helped, but not much.

Any advice?

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CanadaBlonde

Reply by CanadaBlondeGOLD on September 2, 2008 at 7:48 PM

CanadaBlonde loves the songs on feature page today....woohoo!

Mike_Prather wrote:
Binky- wrote:
CanadaBlonde wrote:Mine is not sounding like Stereo, I must be doing something wrong? I have "Stereo Backing Track" ticked on the Recorder and Mic ticked, Stereo unticked in my settings, is that correct?

that sounds right but sometimes it doesnt sound stereo really till playback and even then it had been changing slightly and timing was an issue for some.....

For me I had to "unselect" stereo backing track and then reselect it. .. You'll notice the bar reload.

Thanks, Binky, Mike & others :)

And BTW, Thanks also to SS for allowing me to test Stereo :)

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butlersoft

Reply by butlersoftCHAT-ADMIN on September 2, 2008 at 7:51 PM

OKies ... just successfully managed my first one ...

I went to sing and record and the "Use Stereo Backing" was checked .... so I sang (and just recorded mic) ... and previewed ....

On the preview screen ... regardless of whether or not I then ticked the "use music" option .. it was saying "recording will be in mono" ....

Anyways.... it mixed .... and sure enough .. the recording was mono ...

So .... I tried another but this time ... toggled the "use stereo backing track" off .. and then on again (so I could see the track reload) ....

I sang .... and previewed ... and this time .. when I chose the "use music" it changed to "recording will be stereo".

It took about a minute to mix and I didn't have to change a thing.....

"You Raise Me Up - Josh Groban" .... but I think it loses synch about 75% of thge way through .. but then seems ok again at the end ...

Weird... but I'm gonna keep playing :-)

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hobo56

Reply by hobo56GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:02 PM

ok here is exactly what im getting when stereo is enabled i have yet to get a stereo recording to go thru im one of the old testers who has yet to have one work thanks
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchandlisten/play/c6feaac9

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singingprincess1560

Reply by singingprincess1560GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:03 PM

Ok I just figured out how to level out the music and my voice..but am having a huge problem with the timing of my voice to the music.....

I can't seem to find a proper time value..its at certain points of the song i find the right value that matches my voice with the music..but then as the music goes along it switches and I am either lagging behind the music or in front of it..so i have to find another value??? Uugghhh what does one do in this situation??

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Binky-

Reply by Binky-GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM

Binky- is feeling better yeah, might be able sing soon too :p

again lets keep the THREAD clean for HELPING others with sound... POST SONGS in the threads i put in here plz or do it in promotions lol just saying

Keep on testing

Mike i had to do just that now on my 2 recordings the first one came out mono but my settings were CORRECT
i been testing for while now....
Jason I had to take check out of Stereo on player and REPLACE it back. in on all that i just TRIED.....

I'll post songs on the other thread tho..... lol

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singingprincess1560

Reply by singingprincess1560GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM

sunshinecup wrote:UGGGG! :oP

Ok I get the music in sinct in either the beginning or the end of the song, but not through the whole dang thang.

I have my volume controlled properties set to mic only not stereo mix. This helped, but not much.

Any advice?

I am having the same exact problem....it is frustrating..ha ha!!

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hobo56

Reply by hobo56GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM

Binky- wrote:again lets keep the THREAD clean for HELPING others with sound... POST SONGS in the threads i put in here plz or do it in promotions lol just saying

Keep on testing

Mike i had to do just that now on my 2 recordings the first one came out mono but my settings were CORRECT
i been testing for while now....
Jason I had to take check out of Stereo on player and REPLACE it back. in on all that i just TRIED.....

I'll post songs on the other thread tho..... lol

i only posted this song as a reply to show whats happening when i try and save a song it doesnt work so how can i be promoting anything >??? how can i get helped if i dont ask ??? the song posted wasnt a song it shows error in mixing how can one mistake that for a promotions ??? i actually thought this was a thread to help those having problems with the stereo testing shessh ill just leave the stereo testing to you experts than thanks

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Binky-

Reply by Binky-GOLD on September 2, 2008 at 8:20 PM

Binky- is feeling better yeah, might be able sing soon too :p

its ok hobo im sorry that was not directed at ANYONE specific... I want you get the help you need you have been testing as long as I have right? & you still having problems im sorry if that seemed harsh that was not my intent....

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