Shots Fired at home of Lou Dobbs

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This is what happens when one side won;t tolerate the opinions of others.
Yeah...what the hell happened to tolerance? Oh, I guess your opinion is tolerated as long as it's in line with these loons. These people hatefully attack conservatives, moderates, independents...if they don't agree with them.

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I mean, jeezus....look at what liberal students do when a conservative speaker gets up to the podium and expresses a diverse opinion. They chase them off the stage, or they him/her down, throw things at them....

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Come on Randy, sometimes you make me laugh, it's always one side with you, it's not like liberals ever marched wearing white sheets and hoods now, ya know. And did you ever hear of Timothy McVeigh??

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they did march with red shirts though... but then, what are a few dozen millions of chinese and russians?

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FrankCNY wrote:Come on Randy, sometimes you make me laugh, it's always one side with you, it's not like liberals ever marched wearing white sheets and hoods now, ya know. And did you ever hear of Timothy McVeigh??

You don't want to get me started. We had a thread about the Democrates long history of racism.

But since you got me started...YES THEY DID MARCH WITH WHITE SHEETS:

The complete list of the 21 Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes Senators:

- Hill and Sparkman of Alabama
- Fulbright and McClellan of Arkansas
- Holland and Smathers of Florida
- Russell and Talmadge of Georgia
- Ellender and Long of Louisiana
- Eastland and Stennis of Mississippi
- Ervin and Jordan of North Carolina
- Johnston and Thurmond of South Carolina
- Gore Sr. and Walters of Tennessee
- H. Byrd and Robertson of Virginia
- R. Byrd of West Virginia

Senator Robert Byrd, D-WV: Byrd is a former member of the Ku Klux Klan and is currently the only national elected official with a history in the Klan, a well known hate group. Byrd was extremely active in the Klan and rose to the rank of “Kleagle,” an official Klan membership recruiter. Byrd once stated that he joined the Klan because it was effective in "promoting traditional American values" (Source). Byrd's choice of words speak volumes about his bigotry considering the fact that the Klan is a notorious hate group, and the racist "values" it promotes are anything but American. One of the earliest criticisms of Byrd's Klan ties came in 1952 when he was running for Congress. Byrd responded by claiming that he had left the Klan in 1943 while noting that "(d)uring the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." Byrd was lying, however, as he engaged in correspondence with a Klan Imperial Wizard long after he claims to have ended his ties with the hate group.

In a letter to the Klan leadership (Source) dated 3 years after he purported to have ended his ties with them, Byrd wrote "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." Byrd continued his racist diatribe "It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union" and followed with a request for assistance from the hate group's leadership in "rebuilding the Klan in the realm" of West Virginia.

Outside of Congress, the three most notorious opponents of school integration were all Democrats:
- Orval Faubus, Democrat Governor of Arkansas and one of Bill Clinton's political heroes
- George Wallace, Democrat Governor of Alabama
- Lester Maddox, Democrat Governor of Georgia

The most famous of the school desegregation standoffs involved Governor Faubus. Democrat Faubus used police and state forces to block the integration of a high school in Little Rock, Arkansas. The standoff was settled and the school was integrated only after the intervention of Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

The first Klan was founded in 1865 by Tennessee veterans of the Confederate Army. Groups spread throughout the South. Its purpose was to restore white supremacy in the aftermath of the American Civil War. The Klan resisted Reconstruction by assaulting, murdering and intimidating freedmen and white Republicans. In 1870 and 1871 the federal government passed the Force Acts, which were used to prosecute Klan crimes. Prosecution and enforcement suppressed Klan activity. In 1874 and later, however, newly organized and openly active paramilitary organizations such as the White League and the Red Shirts started a fresh round of violence aimed at suppressing Republican voting and running Republicans out of office. These contributed to white Democrats regaining political power in the southern states.

I was involved in marching myself for Civil Rights in the 60's.
WE KNOW OUR HISTORY. It was not the liberals who ended slavery...it was a REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. So to say that liberals never marched with white sheets is false. Ever watched the footage of them the dogs turned loose on blacks? Or the water hoses? These were not done by conservative republicans, but so called "defenders of freedom" liberal Democrats.

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The only liberals I ever saw fight this was the Kennedy's and Johnson on a big scale. They fought Johnson's vision for stomping out racism.

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its not fair to equate the actions of southern democrats withthat of the entire liberl movement. the southern democrats had always been opposed to civil rights and alot of them became republicans or formed other parties when the democrats began to stand up for civil rights.. when truman integrated the armed forces and pushed for civil rights..strom thurmond formed a third party and ran against him..he eventually became a republican...the south was always the conservative branch of the democratric party,...why do you think the south is now republican

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Do you make this stuff up? These were liberal Democrats my friend...and there were VERY few liberals that condemned their actions. And Robert Byrd was considered VERY liberal.
I'm not going to research more on the rest, but every where I turn, it was Liberal Democrats who opposed the marches, desegregation, etc...with barely any condemnation by their liberal collegues. Hell, George Wallace was considered a liberal:

(1919- ), Alabama governor, four-time candidate for president of the United States. Wallace began his political career as a moderate to liberal Alabama politician in the mold of his mentor, Governor James Folsom. When he lost his first run for the governorship in 1958 at the hands of an ultrasegregationist candidate, Wallace vowed he would "never be out-niggered again." Four years later he swept to victory.

http://www.answers.com/topic/george-wallace

Study your history. I minored in it and had to write stupid papers on it.
Be ashamed of it instead of defending it like these people were not liberals.
I was just responding to the CLAIM that liberals never wore white sheets. Hell yes they did.

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i think your sense of history is a little mixed up..but oh well

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if your going to say liberals were against civil rights...thats not worth even arguing against

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Naw....just rewrite history. Those liberals never voted against the civil rights act. And Liberals really did stand up against their colleagues as a whole. I just made it all up....lol

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I read some transcripts from that time. Barely any liberal colleagues blasted those who were racist.

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they were southern democrats

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Hugo Black: A former Democrat Senator from Alabama and liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justice appointed by FDR, Hugo Black had a lengthy history of hate group activism. Black was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920's and gained his legal fame defending Klansmen under prosecution for racial murders. In one prominent case, Black provided legal representation to Klansman Edwin Stephenson for the hate-induced murder of a Catholic priest in Birmingham. A jury composed of several Klan members acquited Stephenson of the murder, reportedly after Black expressed Klan gestures to the jury during the trial. In 1926 Black sought and won election as a Democrat to the United States Senate after campaigning heavily to Klan membership. He is said to have told one Klan audience "I desire to impress upon you as representatives of the real Anglo-Saxon sentiment that must and will control the destinies of the stars and stripes, that I want your counsel." In the Senate Black became a stauch supporter of the liberal New Deal initiatives of FDR and a solid opponent of civil rights legislation, including a filibuster of an anti-lynching measure. Black led the push for several New Deal programs and was a key participant in FDR's court packing scandal. Roosevelt appointed Black, a loyal ally, to the U.S. Supreme Court. During the Senate confirmation of Black's nomination, the issue of his strong Klan affiliations caused a public controversy over his appointment. Following the confirmation Roosevelt claimed ignorance of Black's Klan past, though this claim was dubious at best. Black's first Senate election, which occurred with Klan support, had been covered nationally a decade earlier in 1926. Black's Klan affiliations were a well known part of his political background and recieved heavy coverage in the newspapers at the time of his appointment. On the court, Black became a liberal stalwart. He also continued his career of supporting racism by authoring the opinion in favor of FDR's Japanese internment program in the infamous Korematsu ruling.

FDR was another liberal Racist. Look what he did to Japanese AMERICANS. But I suppose that's rewriting history and FDR was really a Southern conservative.... :)

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johnson even though he was a southerner knew that the civil rights act was going to alienate the southern democrats from the rest of the party

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I already said that Johnson was one of the few liberals who stood up.
Look, if something is evil...speak against it. I saw very few liberals blast the likes of Wallace and call him and Byrd and others out for what they were....JERKS. Cowards....and to not speak out is in effect doing what? It certainly is not condemning them...their is a saying on that...people who don't route evil and speak against it IN NO UNCERTAIN terms is giving your approval silently.

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well i tried to speak out against them but i wasnt even born yet..

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Do some research on modern day liberal racists....Jesse Jackson is one that comes to mind....
I hate REAL racism (not made up crap about things that are not even racist ...eg..being against illegal aliens from Mexico which is not racist...even if some are bigoted, it's not racist since Mexicans are not a race). I don't care what quarter it comes from....but I see more and more real racism coming from the left.

Have a good day Paisan...got kids to take care of :)

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later fitz

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YADAYADAYADAYADAYADA.

Liberals versus Conservatives
Democrats vs. Republicans.

Same old same old same old.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have opinions
without having to relegate them to categories
and factions?

Not likely it's going to happen is it?

so on and on it goes.

one is right one is wrong
and the stupid battle goes on and on and on and on.......

YADAYADAYADA

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;))

(not that I am not guilty of such behavior myself
because of course I am.... just every now and then
I see how ridiculous I and others are being about it is all LOL)

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whats ridiculous about defending your beliefs?

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Dixiecrats??? Dixiecrats?? Give me a break, the majority of them are the modern day Republicans.

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walkingstick wrote:YADAYADAYADAYADAYADA.

Liberals versus Conservatives
Democrats vs. Republicans.

Same old same old same old.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have opinions
without having to relegate them to categories
and factions?

Not likely it's going to happen is it?

so on and on it goes.

one is right one is wrong
and the stupid battle goes on and on and on and on.......

YADAYADAYADA

"The difference between Democrats and Republicans is the difference between Syphillis and Ghonerreah... both are a disease of the body politic".
-Robin Williams

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And that's why I'm a Libertarian ;)

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