"The Mark"

I just saw this thread and haven't watched the video links yet, but just that photo and the accompanying text is giving me the shivers. This is some scary stuff Amy.

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Ok .. here I go...
Read about the fall of the Roman Empire from a historical source, then read the book of Revelation.. You'll begin to see all of the similarities with the two... Meaning that the book of Revelation seems to be nothing more than about the fall...
You can dig deeper and see where letters and numbers were both used with the meaning of names back then.. and the mark of the beast, 666, was also the numberic equivilent to Ceasar Nero..

That's just my take on it... well .. more than me... :)

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They have these chips implemented on our Military forces already, some know it, some don't. All depends on what rank they are. Our goverment uses our military men as guinea pigs. When they go to another country, they get all these shots, to supposedly keep them from harm but in the end they end up having something else from it, like what they call "Gulf War Syndrome". Our goverment did this to them, not some other country. My ex-husband told me all this. They give them so many drugs, they end up getting sick. With my ex-husband being a Green Beret, he gets all this first hand. Soon, he will be going to another military post in Arizona, where they get to play with all the new toys before they are mass produced for the rest of the military. He will be testing new weapons and probably be tested on with more medication. It upsets me that he lets them do this but he doesn't have a choice. When ya sign that paper to join the military, you belong to the goverment. Becoming Goverment Issued, where the term G.I. comes from. They tell them of course "This is all for your own good". BS, it is for their own good.

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Wayne_ky wrote:Ok .. here I go...
Read about the fall of the Roman Empire from a historical source, then read the book of Revelation.. You'll begin to see all of the similarities with the two... Meaning that the book of Revelation seems to be nothing more than about the fall...
You can dig deeper and see where letters and numbers were both used with the meaning of names back then.. and the mark of the beast, 666, was also the numberic equivilent to Ceasar Nero..

That's just my take on it... well .. more than me... :)

This is correct!

Also, the number 666 can mean anything/anyone that is evil; not just one person.

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Amymama wrote:Good girl Jess!!! I am happy that you know all of this.
Tell our friends here at ss all about it...
your information is vital hun...
Thank you so much...

even though I must admit that sometimes i wish I didn't know all of the things i do....:(

I know, I wish he hadn't told me cuz it upsets me that he lets them do this to him. BUT like I said, once they sign that paper, it aint their choice anymore.

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Amymama wrote:I know Jess...it's aweful...hugz girl. keep your head up and your eyes open..
God bless you and your family

thank you, Ms.Amy, hugz and God Bless.

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Amymama wrote:

scarlettohall wrote:

Wayne_ky wrote:Ok .. here I go...
Read about the fall of the Roman Empire from a historical source, then read the book of Revelation.. You'll begin to see all of the similarities with the two... Meaning that the book of Revelation seems to be nothing more than about the fall...
You can dig deeper and see where letters and numbers were
both used with the meaning of names back then.. and the mark of the beast, 666, was also the numberic equivilent to Ceasar Nero..

That's just my take on it... well .. more than me... :)

This is correct!

Also, the number 666 can mean anything/anyone that is evil; not just one person.

have you watched the vids?????

Yes, I watched the vids. I didn't say it wasn't so but, just because a video says it also does not make it so. I could make a video that says Martians came to my house..would that make it true? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, honestly I'm not. I just don't believe everything I see on the internet or on tv for that matter.

I remember when I was a kid, Ronald Reagan was the anti-christ and the world was coming to an end. We were all gonna die by a nuclear bomb.

All I'm saying is that these kinds of stories have been going on for ages. You read the bible..what does it say? It says "NO ONE EXCEPT FOR THE FATHER, NOT EVEN THE SON KNOWS THE TIME"

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Ok.. I watched them both...
The photo of the hand above is a simple reference.. and is a left hand. The right hand is specifically mentioned in Rev.
The one scene where they were showing one being implanted was being done on the person's back.
Alex Jones is certainly not a prophet, and all things he professes to know are from bits and pieces of sometimes unrelated information..

666 isn't a process, or an effort, or a section of a barcode, or a group of people hoping to take over the world... and it's certainly not a chip.

Rev. 13:18 - Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

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I admire you Amy for being diligent.

However, those verses say to me that no one knows the time so we should be "GOOD" everyday so that we're ready.

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Amymama wrote: Alex Jones predicted that 9/11 would happen before that terrible day.

I didn't see him predict it.. I saw him accuse the gov't. of the Ok. Bombing and the WTC basement bombing, then saying they would do more things like that.. Nothing about 9/11.. nothing about another WTC attack.. just more stuff.. whenever it may be..

I'd like to see the prediction you speak of..

Here are more of his predictions...

--Alex Jones, Infowars, Sept. 13, 2001

"Within 2 years I'm predicting...that you're going to see a suitcase nuke in this country. You're probably going to see a release in a few years of something communicable. & I am predicting that you will see a lot of conventional bombings...in the next year or so."
--Alex Jones, Infowars (10/18/01)

"Suitcase nukes are a virtual certainty."
--Alex Jones, Infowars (5/16/02)

They're preparing for new terrorist attacks that are much larger.
& they're planning to bring in foreign armies."
--Alex Jones, Infowars, 7/11/02

"They're really setting us up for a smallpox attack...
It's not a question of if & when it's gonna happen."
--Alex Jones, Infowars, 9/26/02
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If ya predict enough stuff, the law of averages says something may end up right..

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LOL, Wayne. I dig your logic.

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Amymama wrote:And yes I do see that the pic above is showing the left hand...probobly just a mistake with the computer graphics.

Now this is why I have a problem with these kinds of 666 obsessions...

Instead of thinking perhaps that the particular evidence shows that it may not be the beginning of the end of the world, you prefer to think that it's probably a mistake with the graphics... which will keep your beliefs intact.

Please read the bible.. Please read the book of revelation. Read what is written about the beast.. when he was to exist, how he existed.. about him having a wound to the head. He was a person of that time....

People can't just take bits and pieces from the book that fit their needs... It's all or none...

Now I should probably back out of this thread because these are things that get under my crawl...

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Out of sheer curiousity Wayne, were you a Methodist? I attend a Methodist church now (but don't consider myself Methodist) and they don't talk about Revelations at all and if it's brought up they usually say that it has all happened already. (our new pastor, when I asked her if we could study that chapter, actually said she wasn't "qualified to teach that") ??? Anyway, I completely and totally disagree with the theory that Revelation applied to a past time and believe completely that Revelation is a blueprint for the end times that are yet to come. I fully expect things to happen the way they are presented there; right down to the locusts with the head of a man that will sting and leave people writhing in pain for months. Some things in the chapter seem to be things to not take literally, but some are pretty straightforward and I take them at face value. Like I said, scary stuff.

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Amy, I'm butting in, sorry about that, but I know Wayne and I don't think he's being unfriendly, just simply presenting his opinon on the discussion.

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Why is it that every time someone disagrees they are accused of being rude?

I also think that the book of Revelations has already happened. I don't have to tell ya'll ; I'm not Methodist.

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Okay Jo, you know I respect you and your Biblical knowledge. Why do you believe that? I can't get the pastor to even discuss it! My old church (Seventh Day Adventist) preached Revelations at least once a month.

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I've also been told (by Methodists) that the book was written "in code" because Christian at the time were being persecuted so it was written in such a way that only they could understand it. I always knew that some things described were representative of something, not literal (all the creatures with many heads, etc.), and it's THE most confusing chapter of the Bible (expect maybe Ruth), but I still see it as a blueprint for the last days.

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Has anyone read the "Left Behind" series of books? They are fiction but do a pretty darned good job of bringing Revelations to life in a modern day age.

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amy mama .... I'm glad you have concern for others ... and this is all good information but if people arent willing to accept Jesus Christ, God's Only Son.... then we arent going to be able to change thier minds by this information on a karaoke site.. everyone needs to be taught this information at their local Churches Which we dont need to learn from a predictor if thats what this mr Jones is.. we need to hear it from God's Word.... the King James Bible.... Which Most " fake" religions have done away with anyways... We are In the Last Days Just read there's nothing we can do to change the outcome of the World... Just the people and How many will go to have... and the only way we can help them go to heaven ....is to accept God's Son. Jesus Christ the Lord. Romans 10 9 & 10 St John 3:16 thanks for sharing and caring!!!

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Amymama wrote:Monique all churches unless 100% independant with no Government funding whatsoever all have to follow a 5013c contract with the Government.
The prohibits them from speaking about certain things.

Where did you get this information from Amy? Never heard of this.

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I could put the translation for the whole book if you'd like. Cherie, would you rather me pm you?

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Actually, that's not what I said. I said I could put the translation of the Book of Revelations here...or I could do it in private. No, I'm not a bible scholar.

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Ah, yes Jo, that might be a good idea. :)
I'm called it a night, G'night everyone.

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I'd be interested in that , Amy.

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Rev. 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

I'm just curious how Rev. can be about things to come when it specifically speaks of that which has already happened...

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