Is it just me, or contest where people vote on each other weird?

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Sirfitz

Posted by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Ok...so I don't get blasted or hated on this question, but since I have only been a member for a since last December, what is with the contests that say "to win, you vote on each other"?
Now, I know some will say "don't enter if you don't like it", but can someone or others give their' opinion on this type of contest?

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Burnsy

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Reply by BurnsyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Burnsy is working another 12 hour shift!

Every contest I have been in that they have done that, you weren't allowed to vote for yourself. So, with that in mind, some are going to get more votes than others.

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Binky-

Reply by Binky-GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM

I think it's simple for the Contest Host to do it just that way...and some rounds they have judges too/.... why would you want to offer opinion if you are Not in the Contest though? I just stay away if its that way.... less headaches or worries then ;)

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Ok..to expand on this...are hosts of this contest kinda new to Karaoke? Have they really been in a REAL karaoke contest? I've participated in real karaoke contests, and some of the rules they make up are really strange. Does anyone have an opinion on this...and please, no drama or hatin' :)

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:51 PM

well, i'm not a contest guy, but from what you describe, i don't see anything wrong with that. sounds like you would get to know folks in ur contest.

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tigress1167

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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:52 PM

tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!

they are called popularity contests, it doesnt matter how well you sing, its how many friend you got plain and simple...
I dont run them, nor believe in them. but they are all over, with that in mind, the winner can be picked round 1, pssssst it wont be me...

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Novella

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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!

Not a contest gal, but i think it's a nice way to get people to listen to one another objectively and takes pressure of the host to select winners and eliminate people.

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Binky- wrote:I think it's simple for the Contest Host to do it just that way...and some rounds they have judges too/.... why would you want to offer opinion if you are Not in the Contest though? I just stay away if its that way.... less headaches or worries then ;)

Your right. but it seems that when I first got into this, the contest's were pretty straight. Now, it is pretty slim to get in a REAL Karaoke contest nowadays. :)

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tigress1167

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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:55 PM

tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!

I have been to many "live karaoke" contests, you win not by talent either,its how many friends you brought with you and how much you drink in the bar. most "live karaoke" contests run for 8 weeks, who drinks the most wins, or the chic with the biggest boobs smallest shirt....

thats truth right there...

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM

chicks with the biggest boobs in the smallest shirts should always win all contests!

the end :-)

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 1:57 PM

I guess I am pretty naive when it comes to this I guess.
I ran a contest where the contestents sang a song. Then the judges listened and picked the auditions, and the peeps sang their best and were judged by that. It has changed so much in the last six months. :)

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Attezo

Reply by AttezoGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Doesn't that mean some may not vote for the best ones, so they get eliminated soon? lol it SHOULD be an objective vote, but ya know, some people's kids... lol

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Attezo

Reply by AttezoGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:58 PM

then again, who is the best? it all depends on taste.....

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 1:59 PM

tigress1167 wrote:I have been to many "live karaoke" contests, you win not by talent either,its how many friends you brought with you and how much you drink in the bar. most "live karaoke" contests run for 8 weeks, who drinks the most wins, or the chic with the biggest boobs smallest shirt....

thats truth right there...

Yeah, that would be great if we could do that here.....
cool...next contest I hope can do a Karaoke wet teeshirt contest...LOL

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Novella

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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!

Sirfitz wrote:I guess I am pretty naive when it comes to this I guess.
I ran a contest where the contestents sang a song. Then the judges listened and picked the auditions, and the peeps sang their best and were judged by that. It has changed so much in the last six months. :)

I don't follow many contest - but most of the ones I've seen lately - follow that format.

From what I've seen, there are people who drift from the standard to mix things up and offer something different but I wouldn't say its over-powering. Then again - I think I've followed three contest in the last few months ... so.

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Burnsy

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Reply by BurnsyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Burnsy is working another 12 hour shift!

Well, if they were REAL contests, then they would have REAL prizes. Mostly it's just for bragging rights and getting to know people you don't normally come across.

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM

BTW...would a Karaoke wet teeshirt contest be against TOU?

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Attezo

Reply by AttezoGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM

did i not understand the question? :s

hahaha.

did you mean contestants vote for eachother?

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Cheekylilvixen

Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!

tigress1167 wrote:I have been to many "live karaoke" contests, you win not by talent either,its how many friends you brought with you and how much you drink in the bar. most "live karaoke" contests run for 8 weeks, who drinks the most wins, or the chic with the biggest boobs smallest shirt....

thats truth right there...


Aint that the truth! LOL
Went to one contest and the grand winner was suppose to go to the grand finale contest in Vegas. I thought sure let's try. Dragged my husband and my BF with her hubby. The winner would get a $25 tab from the bar and move on to the finals. There was a party that night and party girl was drunk as heck. Course she won after singing a Britney SPears song. Ok, she didn't sing, she giggled through it LOL. At least 3 other females sang fantastic, and I thought I knew who won( not me lol I knew that for sure). Well, when they finally named the winner, we were all surprised! Drunk birthday girl won! LOL
The one who should have won, got 2nd place and I got 3rd. I don't bother with live contests or contests on here either. I have been in 3 cuz friends asked me to participate. Not that I am expecting to win, just wish they would be fair and not bias LOL( the lives one I mean, the ones on SS is only online and for fun. Not that the live ones aren't fun but they lead somewhere for a grand prize.)

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tigress1167

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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:05 PM

tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!

Sirfitz wrote:BTW...would a Karaoke wet teeshirt contest be against TOU?

you put the potentially offensive check on the song with the pic, anything goes here. woohooooooooo

wet T shirt contest....straight away. woohooooooooo

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

Sirfitz wrote:Ok..to expand on this...are hosts of this contest kinda new to Karaoke? Have they really been in a REAL karaoke contest? I've participated in real karaoke contests, and some of the rules they make up are really strange. Does anyone have an opinion on this...and please, no drama or hatin' :)

I can only offer you from my experience some sort of answer. I'm currently in my second contest where the singers actually vote, and I must tell you, it's the most civil, pleasant, encouraging contest that I've seen. Rita, (A10Cgirl) works very hard to keep a very clean, non biased, non controversial DRAMA free enviroment in her contests, and she does so beautifully. She is NOT new to karaoke at all, and is a very organized host.

The way that our contest is set up, we're split into groups...A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H...group A votes very quietly on group B via pm..B votes 1 out of group A. C votes D, and D votes C..etc etc..The person voted out, doesn't just leave, but is encouraged to stay and still enjoy and participate in the contest. :) The next round may be different..each round voting may be different..some are vote from your own group..the catch is, nobody has been told to vote for the best or the worst at this point..so you can vote very strategically..I personally choose to vote the weakest singer for that round, but thats just me.

This is a very gentle way, and although some may say popularity, i don't think it is...and actually, i think the majority of participants will stay and just enjoy the songs and the singing! Rita has it all organized beautifully, and shes very strict in her beliefs and in her rules..I for one admire the woman so darn much! and I will continue to participate in her contests happily, regardless if i win or lose. :) and yes, she does offer prizes, and comes thru with them. She's a wonderful hostess and organizer.

I guess it can also go the other way if the contest isn't followed closely or the hostess doesnt command the respect that Rita does..command? maybe not the proper word..gain, hold, receive...maybe those are better words..Anyway, this woman has earned the respect that she receives, and in her contests, this method works beautifully. (sorry its so long)

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pickinchooz

Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I'm not showin' my boobs to anybody just to win a singing contest. If you wanna see my man-boobs, you're gonna have to do it the old fashioned way; buy me dinner.

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wizard_of_ice

Reply by wizard_of_ice on May 13, 2008 at 2:31 PM

It's a real dilema. If you judge the songs by a host and judges...someone screams it is unfair (mostly the ones who get eliminated) so some hosts decide, ok I will not judge the songs I will let the contestants do it...Seems ok but then someone does not like this because it is a popularity contest... No way to win.

Best bet is to join if you like and have fun. If you get eliminated look for another one to join. Heck it is not like there is a major prize at stake here it is just a little singing fun. I do not know of any host or hostess who enjoys eliminations, or who runs a contest to belittle anyone.

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wizard_of_ice

Reply by wizard_of_ice on May 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Novella wrote:Not a contest gal, but i think it's a nice way to get people to listen to one another objectively and takes pressure of the host to select winners and eliminate people.

You hit it on the nose there. I have hosted several contests and it is a lot of work but is also very fun. I met people I didn't know and made a few friends along the way. I listened to very very good and some very bad singers and through it all I think most were having a good time. I know I did. You see by hosting you never get eliminated and get to stay for the whole thing...hee hee

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LunaC

Reply by LunaCGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM

tigress1167 wrote:I have been to many "live karaoke" contests, you win not by talent either,its how many friends you brought with you and how much you drink in the bar. most "live karaoke" contests run for 8 weeks, who drinks the most wins, or the chic with the biggest boobs smallest shirt....

thats truth right there...

I go to a contest every year. The rounds are vote based (despite only having 2 people with me, I got through with 17 votes, the girl that came second had 11 votes and... 11 people with her)
I got to the final, and I didn't expect to win as there was this AMAZING opera singer (I was talking to her, she'd had 10 years training) anyway, I got it in the neck from a male judge that my track had backing vocals, but the girl he decided would win had backing vocals on her track. She also happened to be wearing very little. Make up your own mind as to whether she won through talent or looks. The opera lady should have won, but she was 40ish and didn't forget to put her clothes on before leaving the house. I reported the judge, as it turned out others had noticed too, and he no longer judges this contest =)

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:45 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

I'm a recovering contest addict...can't talk about it too much...else I start feeling a little jittery... I personally don't like the idea of having the entrants vote on one another. The reason being is that everyone has different standards and the risk of it becoming a popularity contest.

But I resigned myself to viewing the contests as merely challenges to give me that extra push to learn new and more difficult songs and try to improve my skills. I don't take them seriously. But I have to admit, I've had fun in most of the ones in which I've participated. Won some...didn't make it past auditions in others.

uhh ohhh...palms getting sweaty and heart rate increasing... can't talk about it anymore...

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Little_Wing

Reply by Little_WingGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Little_Wing is all caught up on listens and deserves a cookie!!!!!!!!

pickinchooz wrote:I'm not showin' my boobs to anybody just to win a singing contest. If you wanna see my man-boobs, you're gonna have to do it the old fashioned way; buy me dinner.

**throws a frozen pizza at chooz**

now get em out sunny!!

LOL

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Sultry_Eyes

Reply by Sultry_EyesGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:47 PM

Sultry_Eyes has hit the uk, whoohoo now i can see my kids again :-)

wizard_of_ice wrote:
Novella wrote:Not a contest gal, but i think it's a nice way to get people to listen to one another objectively and takes pressure of the host to select winners and eliminate people.

You hit it on the nose there. I have hosted several contests and it is a lot of work but is also very fun. I met people I didn't know and made a few friends along the way. I listened to very very good and some very bad singers and through it all I think most were having a good time. I know I did. You see by hosting you never get eliminated and get to stay for the whole thing...hee hee


Your last contest was fantastic, I enjoyed every minute of it. Was so much fun........

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:47 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

rofl cheryl! i was a recovering challenge adict but its under control now. haha

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM

The reason that I kinda got turned away from contests was that the two that I entered didn't seem very 'social'.

I listened to every single entry (start to finish - and that was a LOT of time), yet i saw very few of the contestants listening to my songs or the songs of the other contestants.

Those same non-listeners were simultaneously in other contests, also not listening to any of the singers in those.

So - I think that the method of having the contestants vote might go further in making a contest I would like.

And - My comments are NOT a knock against the contests that I was in, or those like it. I'm just saying, it wasn't what I enjoyed. Ur milage may vary. :-)

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:54 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

LupiAppleTushy wrote:rofl cheryl! i was a recovering challenge adict but its under control now. haha

haha...I'm being sucked into the challenges...not quite out of the woods yet...lol

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:56 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

cheryliana wrote:
LupiAppleTushy wrote:rofl cheryl! i was a recovering challenge adict but its under control now. haha

haha...I'm being sucked into the challenges...not quite out of the woods yet...lol

STEP AWAY FROM THE LIGHT!

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM

lol

good thing Snap doesn't sell meth, eh?

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:03 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

LupiAppleTushy wrote:
cheryliana wrote:
LupiAppleTushy wrote:rofl cheryl! i was a recovering challenge adict but its under control now. haha

haha...I'm being sucked into the challenges...not quite out of the woods yet...lol

STEP AWAY FROM THE LIGHT!

too late for me

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:06 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

Sum_Southern_Sugar wrote:lol

good thing Snap doesn't sell meth, eh?

haha i'm on a natural high Steven..rofl no need for that. haha

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:06 PM

k

u can call me a creep if ya want (maybe u already have even), but if that's ur pic, u look WAY too young to be havin grandkids to be watching

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:06 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

lol cheryl! too funny!

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LupiAppleTushy

Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM

LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.

oh Steven, i agree. cheryl is gorgeous and young. I could only HOPE to look that good when i'm a grandmom...(please no time soon!)

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Sultry_Eyes

Reply by Sultry_EyesGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Sultry_Eyes has hit the uk, whoohoo now i can see my kids again :-)

Sum_Southern_Sugar wrote:The reason that I kinda got turned away from contests was that the two that I entered didn't seem very 'social'.

I listened to every single entry (start to finish - and that was a LOT of time), yet i saw very few of the contestants listening to my songs or the songs of the other contestants.

Those same non-listeners were simultaneously in other contests, also not listening to any of the singers in those.

So - I think that the method of having the contestants vote might go further in making a contest I would like.

And - My comments are NOT a knock against the contests that I was in, or those like it. I'm just saying, it wasn't what I enjoyed. Ur milage may vary. :-)

I understand where you're coming from SSS. Sometimes there are lots of contestants in one contest. And if your a contestant in a few contests it can become very time consuming trying to listen to every contestant.

I quite like the idea of having groups in contests. I find it easier to follow cos I'm not that bright lol.......

Oh well watching "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" (I do) but I don't know the answers hehehe

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:20 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

Sum_Southern_Sugar wrote:k

u can call me a creep if ya want (maybe u already have even), but if that's ur pic, u look WAY too young to be havin grandkids to be watching

are you kidding???? call you a creep because you say I look WAY too young???? I think NOT! LOL thank you! :-)

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:21 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

LupiAppleTushy wrote:oh Steven, i agree. cheryl is gorgeous and young. I could only HOPE to look that good when i'm a grandmom...(please no time soon!)

can you say AARP? lol

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KerJ

Reply by KerJGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:52 PM

Well I try to avoid contests that ask contestants to vote on each other unless I see it as a fun contest where you can get flung out for daft reasons, in which case it's fine.

To begin with, I try to analyse the organiser before entering the contest and work out whether they appear to be responsible and have integrity.

A significant proportion of contests fail to complete because the organiser has failed to appreciate the time it takes to do them and the way a number of people react to getting knocked out (badly in other words).

So, once having established that the organiser is level-headed and fully committed to their contest, I will enter if the theme suits. It still might not be possible to ascertain from the introduction to the contest whether the organiser will put out the votes to the public in later rounds but if it does happen, I find it irritating that it hasnt been mentioned at the start . I dont want my singing performance to be voted down because someone I don't know doesnt like the shirt I'm wearing or has never heard the song I have chosen, I want the appointed judge to do it. At least that way, you have had the chance to get a feeling for what they like and alter your tactics accordingly!

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Sum_Southern_Sugar

Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 3:59 PM

cheryliana wrote:

can you say AARP? lol

lol

i can more than just say it...

i get mail from them almost daily :-)

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LaNell

Reply by LaNellGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 4:27 PM

LaNell has had a heckuva day @ work & is glad to be @ home now! :)

LupiAppleTushy wrote:
I can only offer you from my experience some sort of answer. I'm currently in my second contest where the singers actually vote, and I must tell you, it's the most civil, pleasant, encouraging contest that I've seen. Rita, (A10Cgirl) works very hard to keep a very clean, non biased, non controversial DRAMA free enviroment in her contests, and she does so beautifully. She is NOT new to karaoke at all, and is a very organized host.

I agree with you completely, Lupi. I am in that contest with you & I was previously in another one of Rita's contests. She's got her act together!

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cheryliana

Reply by cherylianaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 4:44 PM

cheryliana the great pretender

LaNell wrote:
LupiAppleTushy wrote:
I can only offer you from my experience some sort of answer. I'm currently in my second contest where the singers actually vote, and I must tell you, it's the most civil, pleasant, encouraging contest that I've seen. Rita, (A10Cgirl) works very hard to keep a very clean, non biased, non controversial DRAMA free enviroment in her contests, and she does so beautifully. She is NOT new to karaoke at all, and is a very organized host.

I agree with you completely, Lupi. I am in that contest with you & I was previously in another one of Rita's contests. She's got her act together!

I have to agree here...I was in one of Rita's contests once and she is an outstanding contest hostess.

When I enter a contest regardless of what the rules are, even if I don't totally agree with them, I will abide by them. If I don't think I can cope with the rules, I will not enter the contest. Or I will at least alter my expectations as to the outcome.

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Reply by Janie76GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 6:21 PM

Sum_Southern_Sugar wrote:chicks with the biggest boobs in the smallest shirts should always win all contests!

the end :-)

LMAO!

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kswarthog

Reply by kswarthog on May 13, 2008 at 6:29 PM

Did a contest once. Just too much work for something that I so for fun.

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wizard_of_ice

Reply by wizard_of_ice on May 13, 2008 at 8:59 PM

Sultry_Eyes wrote:
wizard_of_ice wrote:
Novella wrote:Not a contest gal, but i think it's a nice way to get people to listen to one another objectively and takes pressure of the host to select winners and eliminate people.

You hit it on the nose there. I have hosted several contests and it is a lot of work but is also very fun. I met people I didn't know and made a few friends along the way. I listened to very very good and some very bad singers and through it all I think most were having a good time. I know I did. You see by hosting you never get eliminated and get to stay for the whole thing...hee hee


Your last contest was fantastic, I enjoyed every minute of it. Was so much fun........

I am planning a new one soon....a new idea and may be interesting too, surely will be fun

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Sirfitz

Reply by Sirfitz on May 13, 2008 at 9:20 PM

tigress1167 wrote:
Sirfitz wrote:BTW...would a Karaoke wet teeshirt contest be against TOU?

you put the potentially offensive check on the song with the pic, anything goes here. woohooooooooo

wet T shirt contest....straight away. woohooooooooo

Okay. I posted one in Audtions......come on and enter now Tigress :)

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tigress1167

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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 9:32 PM

tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!

I gotta go back and verify that, get another looksy, lol and judge it, if I post one and you go blind its your own fault, ha ha ha
just when the staff want to clean up the threads, my luck

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