Reverb On Live Player???

I have heard it was possible & oh wooow wouldnt that be icing for alot of peeps here to go gold too if that was a feature like stereo too :) coolness Vella

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I'd buy a life time membership!!

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There's a competitor?

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Hopefully snap will make so there is no competing.....

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competition is good but snap should do nicely..

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scarlettohall wrote:There's a competitor?

nahhhhh i dont believe that...lol

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wow.. that's impressive!! SS better keep up..lol..

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Novella wrote:Well...

The upload makes the timing a bit off...

But for those folks (like me) who are unable to get fancy soundcards/equipment (for whatever reason) this is sooooooooooo much fun!!!!

I don't own this computer so I'm not allowed to install stuff. It's amazing being able to sing and actually HEAR the reverb live too.. I'm having fun BUT.. the settings are weird and the timing is off... But who knows.

If Ksolo can do, Snap can do it better :)
I would just be amazed if they did.

im shocked that you know of another site babes......i thought singsnap was it for ya........

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now seen what you done vella,,now ya gonna get all the members moaning about not having what another sites got...roflmfao

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Donny, their have been threads in the Suggestion folder about getting reverb on the site and other voice effects. So, it's nothing new lol.

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Novella wrote:Well...

The upload makes the timing a bit off...

But for those folks (like me) who are unable to get fancy soundcards/equipment (for whatever reason) this is sooooooooooo much fun!!!!

I don't own this computer so I'm not allowed to install stuff. It's amazing being able to sing and actually HEAR the reverb live too.. I'm having fun BUT.. the settings are weird and the timing is off... But who knows.

If Ksolo can do, Snap can do it better :)
I would just be amazed if they did.

I have a myspace and tried ksolo...yes the effects are awesome but the feedback on my computer is terrible with it.....and theres not to much to sing there.....

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no, I meant that the members on here have asked for it in the suggestions folder, that it is nothing new among the SS members. :)

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yessssss quite often in fact i have changed it and forgot is that a disiease? lol

Novella wrote:Anyone ever change their avatar and look @ it and wonder "Who/what the heck is that?" and then realize its you?

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Shannon, to you it appears transparent, but it's not the same as the recorder on snap. Here, it is entirely an non-invasive application. With ksolo, it's a separate application that ksolo installs on your PC which works as a helper application running inside IE/Firefox. It's very much like what ksuperstar used to have with the separate desktop application, running inside the browser when its required. You mentioned you're not allowed to install stuff on your PC, well, when you clicked download and install, that's exactly what you did.

Yes, having a standalone application and a cached copy of the backing music on your hard drives allows the end-user CPU to do alot more of the heavy lifting with sound management, allowing the application to do all sorts of power intensive stuff in software like reverb, etc. Singsnap piggybacks off the flash platform and the backing tracks are streamed not cached so it is limited in some ways.

I'm surprised that ksolo actually has a right to cache a copy on the user's drive. I suspect the licensors granting them the rights to publish don't realize they are actually doing that, or they're using some serious DRM encryption to protect it from piracy.

BTW, did you read the terms and conditions that come associated with installing that recording app to your PC? Most of it is typical software orwellian boilerplate, but one area that should spook the shit out of you is original works... Perform one on there, and you forfeit ownership of the words/music to them, forever. Just one of a few little fun surprises that await those who don't read the fine print.

Enjoy!

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I cannot use that site....I cannot get the soud right so ....this is it for me

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I imagined that when people here were asking for reverb and effects they wanted to hear it 'live' I know that's how I imagined it anyway... else how would you know if you liked the effect or not? Unless I am mis-understanding you there.

It wouldn't suprise me at all that HERE is where they got the idea from in the first place with so many people asking as an incentive to sway back 'competition'.

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Novella wrote:No.. not here....

I was over on the competitor's site and HOLY SMOKES!!!!!!!!!

Not only can you adjust the pitch about 1,000 notches (yes, slight exaggeration) but you can add reverb and ALL SORTS of effects LIVE!!!!!

Yes Folks... LIVE! You select whichever effects you want ... you can choose to hear those effects while you sing OR just upon upload...

I am in awe! I was told this sort of thing wasn't possible but they're sure doing it!!!!!!!!

Can Snap do this too???????

I checked it out to as I have a myspace account.I was wondering if Trevor would be getting something like that in the future too.

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All you need is a free program like Audacity to create effects. Garage Band for the Mac does the same.

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Novella wrote:

BronxBruce wrote:All you need is a free program like Audacity to create effects. Garage Band for the Mac does the same.

Not "LIVE" ...

That's the point

God, I want to delete this thread.

HAHAHA!

I have used Audacity and I now use Magix. Live is more fun.

I can't speak about Audacity because I don't use it but the effects in Garage Band are "Live" as you put it.

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for reverb all i did
is bought a karaoke machine
and bought a wire they allows you to plug it into your record
jack on your pc
and sing off karaoke machine
me, rottiecolt, jennifer061083, and dreamcatcher4
have our sound that way if ya wanna check sound quaity

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just go to your local guitar center or sam ash and buy a simple four channel mixer with on board effects cost is about 60.00 bucks and foranother 6000 you can get a multi directional condenser mic.

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since my mic uses a 1/4" connector, i bummed a reverb guitar pedal off a buddy of mine... stuck it inline between my mic & my PC... worked fine & dandy...

then i got a digitech vx400 vocal processor (goes on the floor, with pedals & stuff, so i can change effects while singin without using my hands)... many MANY more options...

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Novella wrote:
But... Why bother when someone is doing it for free and of no hassle to me? :)

so i can see this pretty lil thing sitting on my floor:

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personally, I think you're better off going the xeno route and getting some sort of hardware to take care of effects. Even if snap did offer some vocal effects like they do on ksolo, and it's not impossible, just invasive and CPU intensive, I'm guessing folks would get tired of the limited number of unalterable effects in a hurry.

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Novella wrote:

Kitty987 wrote:

I have a myspace and tried ksolo...yes the effects are awesome but the feedback on my computer is terrible with it.....and theres not to much to sing there.....

Yeah they suck... the sound doesn't match up well... I was just amazed reverb was even POSSIBLE live... I've spent the stinkin night playing around over there... It was FUN!!!!

And Donny... bahaha.. Snap IS it for me... but I gotta admit... I haven't been THAT excited to sing in a long long LONG time.

I agree...It is really cool to be able to sing with reverb and hear it as your singing.....if only snap could do something like that and figure out how to minimize the feed back yet keep the music in sync with the lyrics No one would be able to top them! =) Well no one can now....just sayin it would be even better! =)

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alrighty... from what i understand, this is how it works:

the snap recorder uses web-based flash to record a mix of your vocals and the streaming track in real time.... that's why the vocals match up with the track EXACTLY as you performed it... as you are singing it, it is being mixed into a single track with the music... that is also why any effects you add to your vocals have to be done via hardware (either external or built into your soundcard)...

sites that offer effects on your vocals basically install a VERY VERY limited audio editing application on your computer... the recorder interface uses the editor to alter your vocals on your machine, and at the same time it records your vocals as one track... it simultaneously plays the backing track from your cache... legal issue being if it was loaded in your cache, then basically the site allowed you to download the track from them, and it is VERY VERY unlikely the site has the distribution rights to allow its members to do that... anywho, when you save the song, it mixes your recorded vocal track with the backing track, and the two can easily be out of sync... the saved mix is then uploaded to the site...

with the right editing software and a bit of know-how, you can easily accomplish the same thing here... download the track, record your vocals, add effects to your vocals, mix the tracks, then upload it back to snap... and since you are doing it manually, you would have much more control over your effects and the sync, unlike with the castrated software that other sites put on your machine... snap can't tell you that it is allowed because they don't have the legal rights to let you download the files... and it is curious that other sites are attempting to get around the law... wonder how long they'll last???

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I just went looking for this fancyschmancy new look KSolo@Myspace, and guess what? It is not available for me to play with in my region which is England. Never mind.

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TheresaBee wrote:I just went looking for this fancyschmancy new look KSolo@Myspace, and guess what? It is not available for me to play with in my region which is England. Never mind.

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Novella wrote:I'm Canadian!

ack!!! that's worse!!!

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I have Gearbox, a 100.00 pound microphone and phantom power and my sounds still crap I have this constant buzzing sound and has soon as I touch my microphone theres an awful sound, so I welcome anything that snap I gonna do lol.

I dont know how many Pms Ive had saying you can hear buzzing, and I know people are trying to help.

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xenomark wrote:

Novella wrote:
But... Why bother when someone is doing it for free and of no hassle to me? :)

so i can see this pretty lil thing sitting on my floor:

Firstly, I can't get my soundcard audio effects software to work on Vista, which isn't an immediate issue as I have partitioned my hard drive so I have part of it still on XP pro. At some point though it will need to be addressed.

Next, I have conflict issues between my card and other programs I have tried to sing at. For some reason I lose all audio effects, the backing track disappears and it's really pissing me off because other people with older cards than me have it working fine and I don't know what the problem is. Grrr!

The other thing though, is the effect my audio effects have on the backing track. Whenever I introduce audio effects, no matter how much or how little I set it the backing track, which can include part of a pre-recorded duet, is also affected by the change. I don't know what the correct term is but this 'double reverb' makes it sound like the backing is coming from a bathroom! This is more prevalent during louder tracks but it does get on your nerves after a while.

That said, £179 for that piece of kit above is money I'm not prepared to fork out. I'll never be taking it THAT seriously.

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REALLYMAD wrote:
That said, £179 for that piece of kit above is money I'm not prepared to fork out. I'll never be taking it THAT seriously.

picked mine up used for half that.... and the vx300 (no usb interface, have to program it using the buttons on the pedal) is usually about 50 quid used....

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That sounds like a much better price.

Then again if all I need for reverb is a guitar reverb pedal, even cheaper. Correct?

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REALLYMAD wrote:That sounds like a much better price.

Then again if all I need for reverb is a guitar reverb pedal, even cheaper. Correct?

yep, works fine if you only want the one effect AND your mic doesn't require phantom power.... actually, i ended up borrowing his entire pedal board, which gave me delay, flanger, chorus, distortion, and something else... lolz... but it did add a noticeable hum to my vocals when i used more than 2 pedals at a time (prolly some bad connections)....

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(i always hit quote instead of edit)

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