It has come to my attention that some more songs that should have been taken down last month due to licensing were missed. I just removed a chunk a few minutes ago. Believe me, I was upset about it as you guys are (or will be).
Also, I'm looking at a way to find a few more that may have slipped through the cracks, for instance the ones that an entire artist is gone but one or two remain. Once these are gone, that *should be it*. There are no more offending songs in our database. Any more 'take downs' are going to be single digit numbers at the very most, as we are notified or become aware of them.
I really apologize for this; my fault. On the flip side, these should have been removed a month ago. :o
I KNOW this thread is going to get 'big' and I really can't say more than I have, so I'm not going to be checking this thread or replying much. I've got a lot of other features on the go that are taking up 99% of my time, so since I can't say much else... well, you get the point.
Anyway, I guess this could be known as the 'flog me' thread. Go ahead. Flog me.
LadyMatika happy 4th of july everybody at singsnap :)
man i would love to give the lic my opinions if the lic keep this up there won't be any good songs to sing anymore pretty soon we are gonna loose all of celine dion's songs and all of Olivia Newton John songs and cyndi lauper's :(
What I don't get is why I am not finding any online articles talking about why this push all of the sudden. I found one place that said Bon Jovi has removed permission to even have his songs on CDG's!
--We understand specific legalites cannot and will not be discussed.
--We love SS and will certainly "go sing another song that IS available" which is the usual suggestion, so that's not necessary to hear right at this moment
--No video updates or MB updates from Trevor/staff leave us to speculate and assume things. Right now, it looks like things are going in the wrong direction, from our perspective.
--It really would be wonderful to know if there is any hope that the songs will come back. We are grateful for all the cool features we have and the new ones to come that you say are keeping you so busy. Love it! Does that preclude you guys giving any glimmer of hope or lack thereof? Even one video announcement sentence, or a post on the board or main page stating "We are working on restoring the catalog as it was prior to the licensing debacle" would suffice. Or the opposite: "The songs are never coming back."
It's the being in the dark that is frustrating. This wasn't flogging...
What is even more depressing...is that these songs are all available on other karaoke sites......not really a way to entice members to go gold is it? when the song listing of popular songs is disappearing fast........ I can only hope that Trevor and staff are working hard behind the scenes to rectify this a.s.a.p.....all the new features are all well and good....but what good are they when you cant find something you actually want to sing.......and why is it all popular songs being lic? why are we being left with all the cack?? sorry...rant over...
Jason...with all due respect....Its really big of you and brave to come on here and admit you made a mistake....but....it only adds to peoples worries that the site is in trouble.......again sorry............x
You say in the FAQ, that it's due to a change in copyright holders or publishers wishes for their songs, such as what I read about Bon Jovi! Then give us the names, we,as consumers, could put pressure on these individuals without SS's name even being brought up.
well...I knew I should not have put up that spaceship and sang while my vocals sounded like the munckins...."bangles song...eternal flame' and now I think about it...my daughter (helene75) sang six songs total and two had went poof...and now two more she sang ....and she...who rarely comes here...has no songs...I doubt whether she will be returning...she will not be happy....and I will miss her singing...she was just talking about coming here to sing..I am an easy person to get along with...well mostly..but well..she will not be happy...I dont think she has any songs now..I am going to go check...yep....only one song left and that was her little baby singing twinkle twinkle.... oh well....
what I dont understand is why not JUST TELL US...what is going on and why all these songs have left....I really dont like to be left in the dark.....
if Lyl (one of the easiest going persons I have ever known) is asking for an explanation, I gotta think it's about time to step up to the plate and clear the bases.
I'm totally disappointed by the way this is handled - not Jason article heading this thread - I mean the whole license business.
What is happening behind the scenes? It can't all be top secret. If we only knew that there was hope! (or no hope). And why do other sites have those songs? Why doesn't paying money help?
Hmmmmm can somebody explain why it's illegal to actually name the songs that have gone? I mean, we can see it in our recordings tab anyway? It's not a secret or anything?!
mel wrote:Hmmmmm can somebody explain why it's illegal to actually name the songs that have gone? I mean, we can see it in our recordings tab anyway? It's not a secret or anything?!
Managing information to control public image, is my guess. You only know what *you've* lost; a canonical list of 1000's of deleted songs looks far worse.
Jenkins3723 going to bed so that tomorrow comes quickly!
caterina wrote:What is even more depressing...is that these songs are all available on other karaoke sites......not really a way to entice members to go gold is it? when the song listing of popular songs is disappearing fast........ I can only hope that Trevor and staff are working hard behind the scenes to rectify this a.s.a.p.....all the new features are all well and good....but what good are they when you cant find something you actually want to sing.......and why is it all popular songs being lic? why are we being left with all the cack?? sorry...rant over...
Jason...with all due respect....Its really big of you and brave to come on here and admit you made a mistake....but....it only adds to peoples worries that the site is in trouble.......again sorry............x
AS MUCH AS I SUPPORT SINGSNAP, TREVOR, AND STAFF, I HAVE TO AGREE HERE........
Cheekylilvixen wrote:la, la, la, la, la HI-ho, hi-ho la la la la la let's all just go sing what we do have LOL. Sorry had to say it hehe ;)
its great to sing what we have, but I don't feel we should just turn our heads the other way...not talking about you...but just in general...we DO need explanations...
I went Gold to mostly support singsnap...and I still do...but in the same manner, I need them to support me or us...by letting us know what is going on, not just generalizations...
mel wrote:Hmmmmm can somebody explain why it's illegal to actually name the songs that have gone? I mean, we can see it in our recordings tab anyway? It's not a secret or anything?!
Managing information to control public image, is my guess. You only know what *you've* lost; a canonical list of 1000's of deleted songs looks far worse.
Adam, I just noticed that they deleted the other missing songs threads. Don't really know why but I imagine they have their reasons. Still, it's a bummer to keep losing songs. Guess I'm going to have to learn some country and some Elvis tunes.
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Posted by jasonSTAFF on May 14, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Hi folks,
It has come to my attention that some more songs that should have been taken down last month due to licensing were missed. I just removed a chunk a few minutes ago. Believe me, I was upset about it as you guys are (or will be).
Also, I'm looking at a way to find a few more that may have slipped through the cracks, for instance the ones that an entire artist is gone but one or two remain. Once these are gone, that *should be it*. There are no more offending songs in our database. Any more 'take downs' are going to be single digit numbers at the very most, as we are notified or become aware of them.
I really apologize for this; my fault. On the flip side, these should have been removed a month ago. :o
I KNOW this thread is going to get 'big' and I really can't say more than I have, so I'm not going to be checking this thread or replying much. I've got a lot of other features on the go that are taking up 99% of my time, so since I can't say much else... well, you get the point.
Anyway, I guess this could be known as the 'flog me' thread. Go ahead. Flog me.
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Reply by gohogsGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:32 PM
no "flogging" from moi... :o)..... good to know that there shouldnt be too many more going vamoose though!
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Reply by MandyCONTRIBUTOR on May 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Mandy what a wonderful weekend for a weddingThere's not much point in a flogging is there Jason..you cocked up love!!!
We all do it.
What would be nice to know though...is there any chance of the songs coming back???
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Reply by lilolme on May 14, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Thanks for letting us know!
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Reply by Joe_Strider on May 14, 2008 at 3:43 PM
flog!!!!!!!!!!!! hahhahahhhaa
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Reply by ladylikepsychGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:44 PM
ladylikepsych heard that misery loves company...is that true?thanks for letting us know the deal
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Reply by sawheadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM
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Reply by MandyCONTRIBUTOR on May 14, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Mandy what a wonderful weekend for a weddinghehe..I have a better one somewhere..lemme find it
damn must only have it on my msn...this one will have to do instead:
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Reply by LadyMatikaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:46 PM
LadyMatika happy 4th of july everybody at singsnap :)man i would love to give the lic my opinions
if the lic keep this up there won't be any good songs to sing anymore
pretty soon we are gonna loose all of celine dion's songs and all of Olivia Newton John songs and cyndi lauper's
:(
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:47 PM
lol at flogging
i don't take it that personal
but i do think a 'real' explanation would be better than 'we can't talk about that'
* warms up wet noodle * ;-)
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Reply by BurnsyGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:48 PM
What I don't get is why I am not finding any online articles talking about why this push all of the sudden. I found one place that said Bon Jovi has removed permission to even have his songs on CDG's!
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Reply by sawheadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:49 PM
sawhead says"if we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."We will be down to singing "She'll be coming around the Mountain" and getting down rated on it !!!!
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Reply by YvonneVTGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM
YvonneVT says hmmmmmmmmmm!! really??!!^^^What they said.
--We understand specific legalites cannot and will not be discussed.
--We love SS and will certainly "go sing another song that IS available" which is the usual suggestion, so that's not necessary to hear right at this moment
--No video updates or MB updates from Trevor/staff leave us to speculate and assume things. Right now, it looks like things are going in the wrong direction, from our perspective.
--It really would be wonderful to know if there is any hope that the songs will come back. We are grateful for all the cool features we have and the new ones to come that you say are keeping you so busy. Love it! Does that preclude you guys giving any glimmer of hope or lack thereof? Even one video announcement sentence, or a post on the board or main page stating "We are working on restoring the catalog as it was prior to the licensing debacle" would suffice. Or the opposite: "The songs are never coming back."
It's the being in the dark that is frustrating.
This wasn't flogging...
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Reply by sawheadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 3:55 PM
sawhead says"if we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."Quote
Reply by pickinchooz on May 14, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Flog, hell! I'm gonna kick your...
J/K... Life goes on, but there were a few songs I'll miss. Ah well...
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Reply by MandyCONTRIBUTOR on May 14, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Mandy what a wonderful weekend for a weddingLOL @ Sawhead!!
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Reply by caterinaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:00 PM
What is even more depressing...is that these songs are all available on other karaoke sites......not really a way to entice members to go gold is it? when the song listing of popular songs is disappearing fast........ I can only hope that Trevor and staff are working hard behind the scenes to rectify this a.s.a.p.....all the new features are all well and good....but what good are they when you cant find something you actually want to sing.......and why is it all popular songs being lic? why are we being left with all the cack?? sorry...rant over...
Jason...with all due respect....Its really big of you and brave to come on here and admit you made a mistake....but....it only adds to peoples worries that the site is in trouble.......again sorry............x
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Reply by LadyMatikaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:03 PM
LadyMatika happy 4th of july everybody at singsnap :)yeah what did ya think we were going to do take a couple of baseball bats and beat the living hell out of ya lol
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Novella -- grrrrrrrrrr!!! (new ic song)I intended on using lead pipes.
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Reply by BurnsyGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:07 PM
You say in the FAQ, that it's due to a change in copyright holders or publishers wishes for their songs, such as what I read about Bon Jovi! Then give us the names, we,as consumers, could put pressure on these individuals without SS's name even being brought up.
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Reply by MandyCONTRIBUTOR on May 14, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Mandy what a wonderful weekend for a weddingI've been told that he's partial to a bit of hardcore
:O
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Reply by MmeOdileSGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:12 PM
well...I knew I should not have put up that spaceship and sang while my vocals sounded like the munckins...."bangles song...eternal flame'
and now I think about it...my daughter (helene75) sang six songs total and two had went poof...and now two more she sang ....and she...who rarely comes here...has no songs...I doubt whether she will be returning...she will not be happy....and I will miss her singing...she was just talking about coming here to sing..I am an easy person to get along with...well mostly..but well..she will not be happy...I dont think she has any songs now..I am going to go check...yep....only one song left and that was her little baby singing twinkle twinkle....
oh well....
what I dont understand is why not JUST TELL US...what is going on and why all these songs have left....I really dont like to be left in the dark.....
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Reply by sawheadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM
sawhead says"if we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."Wheels on the Bus is still here !!!!! I can do it with a bluesy style and make do !!!!
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:15 PM
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if Lyl (one of the easiest going persons I have ever known) is asking for an explanation, I gotta think it's about time to step up to the plate and clear the bases.
p.s. - Lyl had no part in this post - all me
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Reply by DiamondHeadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:31 PM
DiamondHead - is offline ... zzzzzzzzz...I'm totally disappointed by the way this is handled - not Jason article heading this thread - I mean the whole license business.
What is happening behind the scenes? It can't all be top secret. If we only knew that there was hope! (or no hope).
And why do other sites have those songs?
Why doesn't paying money help?
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Reply by cantareGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I'm not gonna flog jason for missing some songs, but it was pretty damn jerky to delete my thread about it.
I gather it is now taboo to even discuss which songs are gone.
FWIW: I received no notice or explanation re: pulling my thread.
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Reply by YvonneVTGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:37 PM
YvonneVT says hmmmmmmmmmm!! really??!!I was just looking for Cantare's thread!
Deleting it will only start anew people coming to the MB and doing the whole missing song list over again.
Maybe it's moved?
Sigh.
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Reply by melGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Hmmmmm can somebody explain why it's illegal to actually name the songs that have gone? I mean, we can see it in our recordings tab anyway? It's not a secret or anything?!
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:39 PM
i didn't see that missing thread, but i have seen others 'go missing' :-(
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Reply by JacquiGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Jacqui says don't go to family reunion if you don't like your family.Hmmmm....
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM
* signs up to be J's cousin *
wooohooo !
pass the pumpkin pie :)
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:43 PM
oops
retraction - i think i did see it - never mind :-)
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Reply by darryl on May 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM
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Reply by melGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM
^^ LOL
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Reply by melGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Jason, just tell us why?? And we'll be good as ever!!! :)
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Reply by cantareGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Managing information to control public image, is my guess. You only know what *you've* lost; a canonical list of 1000's of deleted songs looks far worse.
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Reply by DiamondHeadGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:45 PM
DiamondHead - is offline ... zzzzzzzzz...THE THREAD WHERE PEOPLE COLLECTED THE TITLES OF THE MISSING SONGS HAS BEEN DELETED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another of my parodies is gone, the first - and best! The recording with the biggest number of views and soooo many lovely comments :(((((((
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Reply by melGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Well I've lost a few hundred so far, can't say that being able to name them makes things better or worse LOL
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Novella -- grrrrrrrrrr!!! (new ic song)Oh my Heavens.....
"Lean on Me" - is like the most effing popular karaoke song in the world. How on EARTH was that lost? :(
I had put together a frikken 15-person duet and poof...
Oy.
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 14, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Cheekylilvixen help desk is closed! try the next window plz. happy 4th! :)la, la, la, la, la HI-ho, hi-ho la la la la la
let's all just go sing what we do have LOL. Sorry had to say it hehe ;)
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Reply by Jenkins3723GOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Jenkins3723 going to bed so that tomorrow comes quickly!OH POOOOOOOOOOOO !
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Reply by BurnsyGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Come on guys, this war can be fought on more than one front!!!! Just give us some direction to point our guns!!!!
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Reply by Jenkins3723GOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Jenkins3723 going to bed so that tomorrow comes quickly!AS MUCH AS I SUPPORT SINGSNAP, TREVOR, AND STAFF, I HAVE TO AGREE HERE........
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Reply by denzelsappGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 4:58 PM
its great to sing what we have, but I don't feel we should just turn our heads the other way...not talking about you...but just in general...we DO need explanations...
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Reply by denzelsappGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 5:00 PM
I went Gold to mostly support singsnap...and I still do...but in the same manner, I need them to support me or us...by letting us know what is going on, not just generalizations...
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Reply by JacquiGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Jacqui says don't go to family reunion if you don't like your family.HEY!!!! Somebody has a gun, DUCK, everybody!!!
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Reply by BronxBruceGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM
BronxBruce thought jesse helms was dead already.Adam, I just noticed that they deleted the other missing songs threads. Don't really know why but I imagine they have their reasons. Still, it's a bummer to keep losing songs. Guess I'm going to have to learn some country and some Elvis tunes.
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Wow... I'm still miffed a bit at losing "I Miss My Friend" by Darryl Worley... and a few Trace Adkins' songs... but I won't say anything about it.
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Reply by blazaGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Flogging is boring. I say we tie him between two turtles and let em pull him apart. :OP
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Reply by cantareGOLD on May 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM
...and the one I recorded just minutes ago, after this started...
James Taylor's "Mocking Bird"
*POOF*
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 14, 2008 at 5:09 PM
I thought Donny ate the turtles.
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