Gas price discussion

CrestenPixie wrote:Why are gas stations allowed to change their prices in between when the big gas trucks fill up their tanks? How does what they paid for the last truck change just because the price changed over-seas? Shouldn't they only be able to change/raise their prices upon paying for each new shipment arrival?

If the market price goes up then the retailer will have to pay more for the next shipment so he has to raise his price to be able to cover the cost of the next shipment.

CrestenPixie wrote:Why can't the govt. just put a cap on oil prices?

Well the U.S. government doesn't own the oil as most of it is foreign oil. If other countries are willing to pay that price ,we will have to pay it also to be able to buy it .The market speculators are the ones driving the price of oil up right now not so much the oil companys , they are just reaping the profits. they tried a cap before and it resulted in reduced volumes of gas , to where there was rationing of gas, long lines at the pumps, sometimes you could only buy on certain days according to whether you had an odd or even license plate number. High priced gas is better than no gas in my opinion .

CrestenPixie wrote: Should we begin building refineries and drilling on our own soil? Gee...what a concept! Make jobs for Americans and lower the price of gas nation wide!

Yes we should be drilling our own oil and building refineries , but due to increased pressure from the EPA and environmentalist we have severely limited ourselves in this . But we should also increase our efforts on alternative energy sources such as wind ,solar , hydrogen and nuclear power. Ethanol in the way that the u.s. is making it is one of the worst ways to go,it uses as much resources as it makes . It also contributes to higher food prices.
The good that can come from theses higher fuel prices may be that we will start looking to innovation and really start trying to bring about better and more resourceful forms of energy .

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I heard on the news the other night that we have more oil in the Rocky Mountain area than they do in Saudi Arabia. The power and the money is in the hands of the few and they ain't concerned about me or you.
Ethanol is a joke it just starves poor people around the world. Ethanol should be made from non food products or the waste products from food production. You are not going to get rich men, or politicians paid by rich man, to do anything for the greater good. It has never happened and it will never happen. I wish I were wrong...

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we should be drilling in alaska!

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"Grow hemp" and fuel all our cars, have me a new shirt made to sing in and some rope fur my wife, fur some reason????http://bix.yahoo.com/entry/197310? Then I would wright Maw a few letters from the paper that that hemps made from ta boot and I could use some paper fur the out house also. It's not just fur hippies!!!!! http://bix.yahoo.com/entry/239495? CORN will never be able to be grown in yields we need and hemp goes farther than corn and you can use the bi-product for many many things.

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Al-D-Man wrote:I heard on the news the other night that we have more oil in the Rocky Mountain area than they do in Saudi Arabia. The power and the money is in the hands of the few and they ain't concerned about me or you.
Ethanol is a joke it just starves poor people around the world. Ethanol should be made from non food products or the waste products from food production. You are not going to get rich men, or politicians paid by rich man, to do anything for the greater good. It has never happened and it will never happen. I wish I were wrong...

Aint that the truth!

There is way more oil in the Rockies. Look it up, Queen Elizebeth is buying all kinds of property up in Colorado right now.
btw.. there are more underground bases in the State of Colorado then over half of the United States combined.
Lots of stuff in the rockies.....hmmmm

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Al-D-Man wrote:I heard on the news the other night that we have more oil in the Rocky Mountain area than they do in Saudi Arabia. The power and the money is in the hands of the few and they ain't concerned about me or you.
Ethanol is a joke it just starves poor people around the world. Ethanol should be made from non food products or the waste products from food production. You are not going to get rich men, or politicians paid by rich man, to do anything for the greater good. It has never happened and it will never happen. I wish I were wrong...

All's ya gota do is tell ya friends Vote Hillbilly in 08, I think I as a Hillbilly even can do a better job than what we have to choose from even more of a reason is because I can relate to you the American citizen and thats whats wrong here we have rich crooks runnin this country no different than Mexico only a larger scale and they get by with more, easier. Just Vote Hillbilly in 08 and throw a wrench in their project. I want some one in office that stands in line at the store like me. Not some elite with a servant.

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hillbilly??? who are you and why should I vote for you? lol

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Well thats simple I'm no career crook and I stand for America and the people that could make this country run like a well oiled machine like it should. We need a tune up bad. Get all the old farts out like Kennedy and get the best of the best to help me on problem solvein missions NOTover seas but bring it back home we need to shave and tend to ourself, I wll hire the best at all cost. Put "We" back in "We THE PEOPLE"!!

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Sounds wonderful! I wish you were running.. :)

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Amymama wrote:Sounds wonderful! I wish you were running.. :)

Thats simple too just when ya get to the ballot just mark through ary in Hillary and pencil in BILLY. If they ask I'm runnin under the red neck party!!!

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I also heard that Canada has billions in the tukon area. If we could just get through those rocks.

Also, I wonder how long it will take these companies that are saying the're making vehicles from other fuel sources to do so or are they just full of it?

As for the Prices, the US needs to be the Industrial Juggernaught we known too be and start producing cars with alternative energy, but will that happen? Not in a few lifetimes I think, the're too many rich tycoons out there who have to go bankrupt 1st.

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Gas prices in Germany

1.456 Euro = 2.25143 US Dollar (ref. www.oanda.com)

and that's for one litre (about 1/4 of a US gallon)

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This sure is interesting:
International comparison of gas prizes

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Just a thought from someone who lost a loved one in Iraq and maybe feels a tad bitter about it on the almost 1 year anniversary of that loss... Maybe Iraq should supply free of charge oil for the US and other coalition countries for the next hundred years to begin to pay back the national debt we are incuring while being at war over there. Then for the next hundred years the oil could be free to show respect for the men and women who have died in this crazy war...I am sure they won't miss the oil too much and the next regime that takes over in Iraq won't miss the one or two gold palaces that they will loose because of shipping over that oil...and HOPEFULLY they will use some of that oil money to make things better for their country to also show respect for the coalition for what we have done there. Sorry, done preaching..goes off to my corner

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sawhead wrote:

CrestenPixie wrote:Why are gas stations allowed to change their prices in between when the big gas trucks fill up their tanks? How does what they paid for the last truck change just because the price changed over-seas? Shouldn't they only be able to change/raise their prices upon paying for each new shipment arrival?

If the market price goes up then the retailer will have to pay more for the next shipment so he has to raise his price to be able to cover the cost of the next shipment.

CrestenPixie wrote:Why can't the govt. just put a cap on oil prices?

Well the U.S. government doesn't own the oil as most of it is foreign oil. If other countries are willing to pay that price ,we will have to pay it also to be able to buy it .The market speculators are the ones driving the price of oil up right now not so much the oil companys , they are just reaping the profits. they tried a cap before and it resulted in reduced volumes of gas , to where there was rationing of gas, long lines at the pumps, sometimes you could only buy on certain days according to whether you had an odd or even license plate number. High priced gas is better than no gas in my opinion .

CrestenPixie wrote: Should we begin building refineries and drilling on our own soil? Gee...what a concept! Make jobs for Americans and lower the price of gas nation wide!

Yes we should be drilling our own oil and building refineries , but due to increased pressure from the EPA and environmentalist we have severely limited ourselves in this . But we should also increase our efforts on alternative energy sources such as wind ,solar , hydrogen and nuclear power. Ethanol in the way that the u.s. is making it is one of the worst ways to go,it uses as much resources as it makes . It also contributes to higher food prices.
The good that can come from theses higher fuel prices may be that we will start looking to innovation and really start trying to bring about better and more resourceful forms of energy .

ditto..ditto..ditto

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Hillbilly wrote:

Amymama wrote:Sounds wonderful! I wish you were running.. :)

Thats simple too just when ya get to the ballot just mark through ary in Hillary and pencil in BILLY. If they ask I'm runnin under the red neck party!!!

Being that I'm live in Kentucky, I have been to a lot of red neck parties. I know a lot of hillbillies. Any hillbilly that likes to party gets my vote!!!!!!!

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To be honest, this is one political issue that i don't know if there is anything we can really do short-term, to ease the pain.

& As long as where at war or not on good terms, with the folks who supply us w/ most of our oil, we're screwed.

Example:
I live in Raleigh, NC and Yesterday morning gas was 3.61. This morning, it was 3.75.
That's a 14 cent leap in 24 hours.

Absolutely absurd if you ask me.
It's a good thing we use the bus 99% of the time now =x
I can't fathom what driving must cost now. It use to take 15-20 bucks to fill up our car. It's probably around 65 now.

*shivers at the thought*

^_-Nami-_^

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takes $100.00 to fill up mine so i just stay home unless i have to go somewhere important.

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*Song Parody About Gas Crisis*

http://www.singsnap.com/snap/watchAndListen/play/bd127ad96

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paigesv wrote:Just a thought from someone who lost a loved one in Iraq and maybe feels a tad bitter about it on the almost 1 year anniversary of that loss... Maybe Iraq should supply free of charge oil for the US and other coalition countries for the next hundred years to begin to pay back the national debt we are incuring while being at war over there. Then for the next hundred years the oil could be free to show respect for the men and women who have died in this crazy war...I am sure they won't miss the oil too much and the next regime that takes over in Iraq won't miss the one or two gold palaces that they will loose because of shipping over that oil...and HOPEFULLY they will use some of that oil money to make things better for their country to also show respect for the coalition for what we have done there. Sorry, done preaching..goes off to my corner

Not taking anything away from the sacrifices made by the servicemen/women that served but will say this. Milllions of dollars were liberated from Saddam to rebuild Iraq. This money was p*ssed up the wall by dodgy contractors, leaving a barren wasteland of a country behind. The oil revenue is Iraq's only chance to rebuild and they are already getting the smallest slice of that pie. If you want to lower the price - cap oil COMPANY profits!

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Amymama wrote:takes $100.00 to fill up mine so i just stay home unless i have to go somewhere important.

Same here!! As long as we have SingSnap. We'll be ok LOL But, on a more serious note? I really DO stay at home MOST of the time now. I NEVER go every single day anymore. Maybe once a week, I get out and drive! That's it!!!! I am doing it on PURPOSE too!!! If MORE would do this and even keep that second or third vehicle OFF the highways? We would ALL be making a statement!!! But, for those that simply choose to whine, gripe & moan ONLY? Those that ARE trying, are NOT getting anywhere but, I will STILL continue to NOT drive or go to the gas station until SOMEBODY gets a freaking clue!!! Hubby drives his little ol beat up car to work which is about 10 minutes from where we live. I STAY PARKED except to go LESS than even a half mile to the store for groceries! If nice day, and I only need a few things? I WALK! Less than a half mile is NOT far at all. Of course if raining, snowing, too cold? I will drive to store! I am TRYING to make a statement!!!! I REALLY wish we ALL could go back to horse n buggy and REALLY stick to these oil companies just to show them we CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They did it in the 1800's and before!!!! We all really are spoiled rotten brats here in America! I hate to say it but, we are and can NOT do without the luxuries that our grandparents and their parents actually DID NOT have that we do now!!!

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Look. I realize there ARE those that have to drive REALLY far to get to work. Some maybe as 40 miles away to and fro BUT..........................Not everybody DOES have to drive that far to work so, if we ALL engage those brains and THINK...........we COULD solve this problem!!! Then let the oil companies, feel it in THEIR pockets for a change!!! Simple enough!!

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I heard reports on the news the other day that said we have an estimated 3 TRILLION barrels of oil in oil shale IN THIS COUNTRY. That is three times the known reserves of the Saudis.

We have not built a refinery in what 30 years?

The government has tarriffs on imported oil...lots of money for the Federal government.

The government also places a per gallon tax on our gasoline, as well as state governments.

Now we are directing a large percentage of our corn crop to produce a less efficient fuel that costs more to produce in energy than it gives back.

Have we lost our minds?

Not to mention the vast coal reserves this country has. The technology has been in place since the days of Hitler to convert coal to oil.

We have enough oil in our own lands and seas to actually EXPORT it and become the worlds largest exporter.

No, I think there is something else going on here. It is very odd.

Either we have a bunch of politicians in office who are complete morons, or something else is afoot.

You tell me.

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CrestenPixie wrote:Ok...what do you propose??

I have to take my daughter to daycare, and then get myself to work...a 45 min drive total AND I live in the burbs where there is no mass transit. Hubby works in a city in the OPPOSITE direction from my work and his hours vary from day to day (1 day shift, 2 afternoon shifts, 2 midnight shifts each week) The only place we generally go on the weekends is to the grocery store.

I'd love to take a stand and not drive, but I just don't see how...

You keep driving and do what you have to do but the OTHERS can find better means of getting around when they are MUCH closer to work, stores etc!!! That was what I was getting at!! :o) That was why I stated I realize there are others like yourself but for those of us that CAN make a difference WILL make the oil companies feel it in their pockets for a change!! IF MORE would be willing to sacrifice their vehicles. I am telling you right now, I KNOW I am NOT the only one who keeps theirs parked now!!! If MORE CAN DO IT? We WILL be making a statement and that is the whole point I am trying to make. I just recently learned of a guy, who is riding his bicycle to work and back and he has to go 19 miles one way!!!! People? This means we are ALL getting desperate now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

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I have a question!! {since we are discussing high gas prices} Why is it that somewhere in the UK, they are paying $11 per gallon for gas, United States is paying $4-$5 per gallon in some states but yet, Venesuela {sp?} is only paying .14 per gallon and middle east is only paying .45 per gallon?????????????? I see a LOT of greed in UK & United States and I smell a big FAT rat!!!!

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Does EVERYBODY know WHO the big FAT rat is?????

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rickorama wrote:I heard reports on the news the other day that said we have an estimated 3 TRILLION barrels of oil in oil shale IN THIS COUNTRY. That is three times the known reserves of the Saudis.

We have not built a refinery in what 30 years?

The government has tarriffs on imported oil...lots of money for the Federal government.

The government also places a per gallon tax on our gasoline, as well as state governments.

Now we are directing a large percentage of our corn crop to produce a less efficient fuel that costs more to produce in energy than it gives back.

Have we lost our minds?

Not to mention the vast coal reserves this country has. The technology has been in place since the days of Hitler to convert coal to oil.

We have enough oil in our own lands and seas to actually EXPORT it and become the worlds largest exporter.

No, I think there is something else going on here. It is very odd.

Either we have a bunch of politicians in office who are complete morons, or something else is afoot.

You tell me.

political agenda... = something else

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WARNING NEW SCAM ALERT!!!!!!!

Keep an Eye on your license plate.

A woman said her son found his license plate missing so he called the police to file a report. They told him people were stealing the plates to get free gas. Given the rise in gas prices, people have taken to stealing license plates, putting them on their car, then getting gas and running. The gas station will have "your" license plate # and you could be in trouble for "pump and run."

Check your car periodically to be sure you still have a plate. If you should find it missing, file a report immediately!!! Keep an eye on your license plate! Make sure you always know it's there! When the license plate is reported as the "drive off vehicle," it's YOU they contact! Be aware!!!!

Be aware of your license plates, most of us never look to see if the plates are there or not.

Lt. R. Dean
Hondo Police Department

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Hillbilly wrote:WARNING NEW SCAM ALERT!!!!!!!

Keep an Eye on your license plate.

A woman said her son found his license plate missing so he called the police to file a report. They told him people were stealing the plates to get free gas. Given the rise in gas prices, people have taken to stealing license plates, putting them on their car, then getting gas and running. The gas station will have "your" license plate # and you could be in trouble for "pump and run."

Check your car periodically to be sure you still have a plate. If you should find it missing, file a report immediately!!! Keep an eye on your license plate! Make sure you always know it's there! When the license plate is reported as the "drive off vehicle," it's YOU they contact! Be aware!!!!

Be aware of your license plates, most of us never look to see if the plates are there or not.

Lt. R. Dean
Hondo Police Department

If everybody gets an alarm system that WORKS? They won't have this problem and if I remember correctly, MOST people DO have them now!!!! So, let em try and steal my license plate. They will see the bars of a 6x6 cell or 4x4 or whatever size they have!!!! :P

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And as unfortunate as it may seem? SOME may even lose their lives over it by getting filled with bullets in various places for TRYING it!!!!! :P

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That was my whole point!! We should not be paying those high gas prices!!!! We should NOT HAVE too period!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So now they THINK they are better than us too since they pay LESS Right? Yep. I will answer it for you!! I had saw somewhere on the Net a long time ago that they do NOT want us in there or sharing their oil. I am talking about the Middle East so, WHY are they still dealing with them is my NEXT question??????????? 17% is all we use from Middle East anyway so, WHAT is the REAL problem here?????

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No takers? Then I guess the rest of you have no answers yet either no more than I do!!! I'm working on it though :o)

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CrestenPixie wrote:The real problem is that we are the most powerful nation in the world and we are 100% dependant on other countries for our fuel when we have more oil on our soil and off our shores than the entire middle east...but we do not drill for it or refine it ourselves. The answer is we need to use our own resources and become independent. it's bad enough we're billions in debt to China and Kuwait.

Sign the petition..."Drill here, drill now, pay less"

http://www.americansolutions.com/actioncenter/petitions/?Guid=54ec6e43-75a8-445b-aa7b-346a1e096659

Amen CrestenPixie. I have heard news reports that we have 3 trillion barrels of oil traped in oil shale in this country. Three times the known reserves of Saudi Arabia.

If we do not immediatly start building refineries, coal to oil plants and drilling for these vast resources, some political heads need to roll

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I think people should stop driving and start walking/biking and possible bust out the horse & carriages. That's just me though.

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tinkster wrote: I think people should stop driving and start walking/biking and possible bust out the horse & carriages. That's just me though.

Yeah, that would work really well for Truckers, Construction Tradesmen, Sales persons, Suburban communters...etc.

Not practical tinkster, although ceasing to drive the car around the block when you can walk, I a all for that.

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tinkster wrote: I think people should stop driving and start walking/biking and possible bust out the horse & carriages. That's just me though.

I'm afraid that IS what is going to happen. A few people WILL go to these measures as others will follow!! The majority ALWAYS rules!! Would be nice to see horse & buggy again too and a LOT less accidents!!! That is for sure!!!! Unless somebody's horse runs down someone on their bicycle!!!! What a topsy turvy world we live in today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

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New York Post

HYPOCRITES ON GAS

By GEORGE F. WILL

June 5, 2008 -- RISING in the Senate on May 13, Chuck Schumer, the New York Democrat, explained: "I rise to discuss rising energy prices." The president was heading to Saudi Arabia to seek an increase in its oil production, and Schumer's gorge was rising.

Saudi Arabia, he said, "holds the key to reducing gasoline prices at home in the short term." Therefore arms sales to that kingdom should be blocked unless it "increases its oil production by one million barrels per day," which would cause the price of gasoline to fall "50 cents a gallon almost immediately."

Can a senator, with so many things on his mind, know so precisely how the price of gasoline would respond to that increase in the oil supply?

Schumer does know that if you increase the supply of something, the price of it probably will fall. That's why he and 96 other senators recently voted to increase the supply of oil on the market by stopping the flow of oil into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which protects against major physical interruptions.

Seventy-one of the 97 senators who voted to stop filling the SPR also oppose drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

One million barrels is what might today be flowing from ANWR if in 1995 President Bill Clinton hadn't vetoed legislation to permit drilling there. One million barrels produce 27 million gallons of gasoline and diesel fuel. Seventy-two of today's senators - including Schumer, of course, and 38 other Democrats, including Barack Obama, and 33 Republicans, including John McCain - have voted to keep ANWR's estimated 10.4 billion barrels of oil off the market.

So Schumer, according to Schumer, is complicit in taking $10 away from every American who buys 20 gallons of gasoline.

"Democracy," said H.L. Mencken, "is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard." The common people of New York want Schumer to be their senator, so they should pipe down about gasoline prices, which are a predictable consequence of their political choice.

Also disqualified from complaining are all voters who sent to Washington senators and representatives who've voted to keep ANWR's oil in the ground, and who voted to put 85 percent of America's offshore territory off-limits to drilling. The US Minerals Management Service says that restricted area contains perhaps 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic feet of natural gas - 10 times the oil and 20 times the natural gas Americans use in a year.

Drilling is under way 60 miles off Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than US companies are.

ANWR is larger than the combined areas of five states (Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Delaware) and drilling along its coastal plane would be confined to a space one-sixth the size of Washington's Dulles Airport.

Offshore? Hurricanes Katrina and Rita destroyed or damaged hundreds of drilling rigs without causing a large spill. There hasn't been a significant spill from an offshore US well since 1969. Of the more than 7 billion barrels of oil pumped offshore in the last 25 years, 0.001 percent - that is one-thousandth of 1 percent - has been spilled. Louisiana has more than 3,200 rigs offshore - and a thriving commercial fishing industry.

In his "Gusher of Lies: The Dangerous Delusions of 'Energy Independence,' " Robert Bryce says Brazil's energy success has little to do with its much-discussed ethanol production and much to do with its increased oil production, the vast majority of which comes from off Brazil's shore. Investor's Business Daily reports that Brazil, "which recently made a major oil discovery almost in sight of Rio's beaches," has leased most of the world's deep-sea drilling rigs.

In September 2006, two US companies announced that their "Jack No. 2" well, in the Gulf 270 miles southwest of New Orleans, had tapped a field with perhaps 15 billion barrels of oil, which would increase America's proven reserves by 50 percent. Just probing four miles below the Gulf's floor costs $100 million. Congress' response to such expenditures is to propose increasing the oil companies' tax burdens.

America says to foreign producers: We prefer not to pump our oil, so please pump more of yours, thereby lowering its value, for our benefit. Let it not be said that America has no energy policy.

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I still can't believe humans are so selfish that instead of learning a valuable lesson- that the world does not have limitless resources & trying to adapt to this- there are those who would rather just destroy the natural habitat of so many innocent animals.

get off your ass and walk for once. 100 years ago even our ancestors were walking, riding trains, horses -

a bunch of spoiled rotten people is all we are.

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It's amazing, where I live we (California desert) were very concerned about the gas prices hitting the $4.00 mark. Yesterday my hubby and I drove over to see our little girls Godparents (bout 15 miles away) and we saw that gas prices shot right past $4.00 and went straight to $4.45. We were stunned...and sad.

Unfortunately, my hubby has not yet learned to walk the 140 or so miles a day he has to commute to get to work (because of where we can afford to live, and because his job is the most incredible job for someone without a college education)... he also has not learned to carry a van-load on his own back.

However, because he is required to drive so much, I myself try to drive only to the grocery store and only when absolutely necessary.

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I am of course not referring to truckers... I'm referring to people who everyday drive 5 minutes away to work, and you know there are millions of people who do this.

In other countries the people don't have to worry about the price of gas because they walk and use public transportation. Obviously it is not an option for everyone, but for those who have a choice they have no right to complain.

People take everything so far to the extreme. I did not mean that we should banish cars- I simply meant that with some reevaluation of life maybe people could realize that driving is not the most important thing.

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tinkster wrote:I still can't believe humans are so selfish that instead of learning a valuable lesson- that the world does not have limitless resources & trying to adapt to this- there are those who would rather just destroy the natural habitat of so many innocent animals.

get off your ass and walk for once. 100 years ago even our ancestors were walking, riding trains, horses -

a bunch of spoiled rotten people is all we are.

Do you sincerely wish to say that sort of thing to people, without really considering the myriad of occupations and situations people are in?

How about we think a bit?

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rickorama wrote:

tinkster wrote:I still can't believe humans are so selfish that instead of learning a valuable lesson- that the world does not have limitless resources & trying to adapt to this- there are those who would rather just destroy the natural habitat of so many innocent animals.

get off your ass and walk for once. 100 years ago even our ancestors were walking, riding trains, horses -

a bunch of spoiled rotten people is all we are.

Do you sincerely wish to say that sort of thing to people, without really considering the myriad of occupations and situations people are in?

How about we think a bit?

how about you think for longer than a bit, and instead of worrying about how much money we all have for gas and clothes you actually think about that there are people in the US who are starving to death and we cry and complain because gas is expensive. Gas wouldn't be so expensive if we didn't value it. Value doesn't come from nothing, it comes from the fact that as americans we hold it so high up on the list of things that are important.

Why not save gas for people who really need it, the prices would go down eventually because less people would be buying it.

We also need to get healthier as a nation, so whats wrong with me suggestion that people start walking or taking public transportation?

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This country is in deep, deep trouble.

MAINLY BECAUSE A GOOD MANY OF OUR OWN CITIZENS HAVE LOST THEIR MINDS!

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CrestenPixie wrote:The real problem is that we are the most powerful nation in the world and we are 100% dependant on other countries for our fuel when we have more oil on our soil and off our shores than the entire middle east...but we do not drill for it or refine it ourselves. The answer is we need to use our own resources and become independent. it's bad enough we're billions in debt to China and Kuwait.

Sign the petition..."Drill here, drill now, pay less"

http://www.americansolutions.com/actioncenter/petitions/?Guid=54ec6e43-75a8-445b-aa7b-346a1e096659

You as in America may be dependant on other countries in the world but I for one do NOT think that America is the most "powerful" country in the world, not by a long chalk lol......

If you stood alone you would fall big time.........

Sometimes speaking up is a great thing but then again when they think they are so powerful, then sometimes it back fires on them if you get my drift.............

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