Euros -wthey!

I heard today on 1010 wins that stores in the Hamptons are accepting Euro dollars for payment now. Hmmm... makes you wonder what the rich people know that we don't...

http://hamptons.plumtv.com/stories/sign_times_here_come_euros

http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/some-hamptons-retailers-now-take-euros

http://watchingamerica.com/News/1168/super-expensive-hamptons/

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Economics-2301/2008/5/Euros-dollars.htm

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no there's nothing wrong with Euros but if the rich in America are using them over American dollars? or maybe its nothing but it makes you wonder...

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so then it may mean something larger than we are aware of right now....like how they are raising the cost of everything so the rich can stuff their pockets with our hard earned money before a major recession?

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maybe..I agree something like that is probably going on. I remember when I was doing research and also checking out some of the links on the boards, there was information about a new currency the "amero"
http://amerocurrency.com/
http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive/0802/0041.html

...like usual, they come, they conquer and they dropthe effects on the world long after they are done

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it's coming.. I must prepare but how, ya know... how do you prepare?

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oh Amy, rely on Jesus yes I agree! I meant how do we prepare for the struggle of a recession when we are already struggling eek!
We are being blindsided now, things are changing all at once...everything is going up at one time ya know?
It's tough.
what do you guys/gals think is the next thing they are going to hit us with?
I already predict gas may go up to nearly $6.00 eventually.

I guess I feel it more being in NY because here everything has become so pricey.

Struggle struggle haha wish I had money to buy Euros so I could keep up with the rich LOL

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why do yu say get out of debt? (other than the obvious reasons of course...)
why guns and ammo?

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Well, Wicca I know that alot of U.S. power has been acquired through gold and the use of the U.S. dollar. If we were to switch to the euro, it would or could cause a sort of fall of America. Some analysts consider us to be in a real recession, but things could get a lot worse and they probably will. So the Euro ties to the NWO because it is believed that all of the major moves being made today are to position themselves to become a one world, one currency nation. Yes, it is theory now but if you do the research you can draw your own conclusions. I can't really put my finger on it yet, but I guess that what they intended.
I didn't add links from my research because honestly I'm too exhausted to search for them but check it out...I believe that there is more them using/or even having Euros than just because it is a more stable currency but that might be the reason the rich are stocking up on the Euro.

I go to bed now eyes are closing on me.

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Well, Wicca I know that alot of U.S. power has been acquired through gold and the use of the U.S. dollar. If we were to switch to the euro, it would or could cause a sort of fall of America. Some analysts consider us to be in a real recession, but things could get a lot worse and they probably will. So the Euro ties to the NWO because it is believed that all of the major moves being made today are to position themselves to become a one world, one currency nation. Yes, it is theory now but if you do the research you can draw your own conclusions. I can't really put my finger on it yet, but I guess that what they intended.
I didn't add links from my research because honestly I'm too exhausted to search for them but check it out...I believe that there is more them using/or even having Euros than just because it is a more stable currency but that might be the reason the rich are stocking up on the Euro.

I go to bed now eyes are closing on me.

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LindaCa's link:

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
U.S.-Mexico merger
opposition intensifies
Some see secret efforts to scrap dollar,
end U.S. sovereignty, combine nations
Posted: July 09, 2006
11:59 pm Eastern

By Joseph Farah
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – Are secret meetings being held between the corporate and political elites of the U.S., Mexico and Canada to push North America into a European Union-style merger?

Is President Bush's reluctance to control the border and enforce laws requiring deportation of foreigners who enter the country illegally part of a master plan to all but eliminate borders between the U.S., Canada and Mexico?

Does the agenda of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America include a common currency that would scrap the dollar in favor of what some are calling the "amero"?

It may be the biggest story of the 21st century, but few press outlets are telling it. In fact, until very recently, few in the U.S. were aware of the plans and even fewer denouncing what appears to be the implementation of an effort some have characterized as "NAFTA on steroids."

But opposition is mounting.

Perhaps the most blistering criticism has come from Lou Dobbs of CNN – a frequent critic of Bush's immigration policies.

"A regional prosperity and security program?" he asked rhetorically in a recent cablecast. "This is absolute ignorance. And the fact that we are -- we reported this, we should point out, when it was signed. But, as we watch this thing progress, these working groups are continuing. They're intensifying. What in the world are these people thinking about? You know, I was asked the other day about whether or not I really thought the American people had the stomach to stand up and stop this nonsense, this direction from a group of elites, an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value. And I hope, I pray that I'm right when I said yes. But this is -- I mean, this is beyond belief."

What has Dobbs and a few other vocal critics bugged began in earnest March 31, 2005, when the elected leaders of the U.S., Mexico and Canada agreed to advance the agenda of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

No one seems quite certain what that agenda is because of the vagueness of the official declarations. But among the things the leaders of the three countries agreed to work toward were borders that would allow for easier and faster moving of goods and people between the countries.

Coming as the announcement did in the midst of a raging national debate in the U.S. over borders seen as far to open already, more than a few jaws dropped.
Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. and the chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus as well as author of the new book, "In Mortal Danger," may be the only elected official to challenge openly the plans for the new superstate.

Responding to a WorldNetDaily report, Tancredo is demanding the Bush administration fully disclose the activities of the government office implementing the trilateral agreement that has no authorization from Congress.

Tancredo wants to know the membership of the Security and Prosperity Partnership groups along with their various trilateral memoranda of understanding and other agreements reached with counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minutemen, welcomed Tancredo's efforts.

"It's time for the Bush administration to come clean," Gilchrist said. "If President Bush's agenda is to establish a new North American union government to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, then the president has an obligation to tell this to the American people directly. The American public has a right to know."

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.

Phyllis Schlafly, the woman best known for nearly single-handedly leading the opposition that killed the Equal Rights Amendment, sees a sinister and sweeping agenda behind the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

"Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco, Texas, last year and reaffirmed at Cancun, Mexico, this year?" she asks. "Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a 'new world order.'"

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She accuses the president and others behind the effort of wanting to obliterate U.S. borders in an effort to increase the Mexican population transfer and lower wages for the benefit of U.S. corporate interests.

"Bush meant what he said, at Waco, Texas, in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a 'Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America' by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico," she said. "Bush's guest-worker proposal would turn the United States into a boardinghouse for the world's poor, enable employers to import an unlimited number of 'willing workers' at foreign wage levels, and wipe out what's left of the U.S. middle class. Bush lives in a house well protected by a fence and security guards and he associates with rich people who live in gated communities. Yet, for five years, he has refused to protect the property and children of ordinary Arizona citizens from trespassers and criminals."

That's unusually harsh criticism of a Republican president from one of Ronald Reagan's most loyal supporters.

At least one of the nation's daily newspapers has officially weighed in in opposition to the mysterious plans for closer cooperation in security, commerce and immigration between the three North American nations.

Recently, the Pittsburgh Tribune Review questioned the unchallenged momentum toward merger.

"Will Americans trade their dead presidents for Ameros?" the newspaper asked in an editorial last month.

The paper chided efforts at replacing the U.S. and Canadian dollars and Mexican peso with "the amero" – a knockoff of the euro – along with the building of "a looming NAFTA-like superstate." Citing the meeting between the three national leaders at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, in March 2005, the editorial warned: "Canadians, Mexicans and Americans who value the sovereignty of their respective countries should be concerned."

The Tribune Review editorial saw synergy between the plans of the national leaders and the ambitious agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations – seen by many as a kind of secretive, shadow government of the elite. The CFR issued a bold report in the spring of 2005, shortly after the joint announcements in Waco by Bush and his counterparts.

"The Council on Foreign Relations published a report in May -- "Building a North American Community" -- calling for, among other things, redefining the borders of the three nations, creating a super-regional governance board and the North American Paramilitary Group to ensure that Congress does not interfere with whatever the trilateral union feels like doing," said the paper. "Must the Bush administration happily sacrifice every shred of American sovereignty for the greater good of the New World Order?"

In fact, the CFR report is a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

Some see it as the blueprint for merger of the U.S., Canada and Mexico. It calls for "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital and people flow freely."

The CFR's strategy calls specifically for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people." It calls for laying "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." It calls for efforts to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations." It calls for efforts to "harmonize entry screening."

In "Building a North American Community," the report states that Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal March 23, 2005, at that meeting in Waco, Texas.

Alan Burkhart, who describes himself as a free-lance political writer, cross-country trucker "and proud citizen of one of the reddest of the Red States – Mississippi," is another critic seething over these plans that seem to have a life of their own – with little or no real public debate.

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"As time passes, American corporations will find it unnecessary to move their facilities out of the country," writes Burkhart. "Our already stagnant wages will be just as low as those of Mexico. The cultures of three great nations will be diluted. Our currency will be replaced with the 'Amero.' And, we’ll be one giant step closer to the U.N.’s perverse dream of a one-world government."

The Amero is not a new concept. It was first proposed by the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think tank, in a monograph titled "The Case for the Amero" in 1999.

Last month, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America made one of its most visible and public moves since it was first announced last year. In Washington, on June 15, U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, Mexican Economy Minister Sergio Garcia de Alba and Canadian Minister of Industry Maxime Bernier joined North American business leaders to launch the North American Competitiveness Council. It was a major development that showed the March 2005 meeting was no fluke – and that the plans announced by the three national leaders then were continuing to take shape. The NACC was first announced by Bush, Harper and Fox.

Made up of 10 high-level business leaders from each country, the NACC will meet annually with senior North American government officials "to provide recommendations and help set priorities for promoting regional competitiveness in the global economy."

Officially, the council has the mandate to advise the governments on improving trade in key sectors such as automobiles, transportation, manufacturing and services. The three countries do more than $800 billion in trilateral trade.

Gutierrez said the Bush administration is determined to develop a "border pass" on schedule despite worries about its implementation. The new land pass is to be in effect for Canadians, Americans and Mexicans by Jan. 1, 2008.

The U.S. executives involved in the NACC include: United Parcel Service Inc. Chairman Michael Eskew; Frederick Smith, chairman of FedEx Corp.; Lou Schorsh, chief executive of Mittal Steel USA; Joseph Gilmour, president of New York Life Insurance Co.; William Clay Ford, chairman of Ford Motor Co.; Rick Wagoner, chairman of General Motors Corp.; Raymond Gilmartin, CEO of Merck & Co. Inc.; David O'Reilly, chief executive of Chevron Corp.; Jeffrey Immelt, chairman of General Electric Co.; Lee Scott, president of Wal-Mart Stores Inc.; Robert Stevens, chairman of Lockheed Martin Corp.; Michael Haverty, chairman of Kansas City Southern; Douglas Conant, president of Campbell's Soup Co. and James Kilt, vice-chairman of Gillette Inc.

The concerns about the direction such powerful men could lead Americans without their knowledge is only heightened when interlocking networks are discovered. For instance, one of the components envisioned for this future "North American Union" is a superhighway running from Mexico, through the U.S. and into Canada. It is being promoted by the North American SuperCorridor Coalition, or NASCO, a non-profit group "dedicated to developing the world’s first international, integrated and secure, multi-modal transportation system along the International Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor to improve both the trade competitiveness and quality of life in North America."

The president of NASCO is George Blackwood, who earlier launched the North American International Trade Corridor Partnership. In fact, NAITCP later morphed into NASCO. A NAIPC summit meeting in 2004, attended by senior Mexican government officials, heard from Robert Pastor, an American University professor who wrote "Toward a North American Community," a book promoting the development of a North American union as a regional government and the adoption of the amero as a common monetary currency to replace the dollar and the peso.

Pastor also was vice chairman of the May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force entitled "Building a North American Community" that presents itself as a blueprint for using bureaucratic action within the executive branches of Mexico, the U.S. and Canada to transform the current trilateral Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America into a North American union regional government.

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CowGalDeb's link:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3421749,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf

European Union | 18.06.2008
EU Presses Ahead With Treaty Ratification Despite Irish "No"
EU summit
Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: That thick pile called "Lisbon" will be on the table waiting for EU lawmakers at the summit

Ahead of a summit in Brussels, the European Union called Wednesday for the ratification process of the Lisbon Treaty to continue despite its crushing rejection by Irish voters last week.

A planned two-day European Union summit which opens on Thursday, June 19, meant to focus on weighty topics such as rising oil prices is likely to be overshadowed by the institutional crisis plaguing the bloc after Irish voters last week resoundingly rejected the Lisbon treaty.

Ireland plunged the European Union into chaos last week when 53 percent of voters rejected the treaty meant to streamline the bloc's cumbersome institutions and to make it more efficient after a recent eastward expansion.

Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa, who will act as chair for the last time as president of the European Union, insists that "not a single item has been dropped from the official agenda because of what happened in Ireland."

"Leaders will want to show that they are paying attention to what matters to consumers, which is oil and food prices," one diplomat told news agency DPA.

Irish rejection clouds summit

Yet despite their best intentions, EU leaders will inevitably focus on the institutional chaos sparked by Ireland's rejection of the Lisbon Treaty.

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso called on the EU heads of state and government to take time at Thursday and Friday's summit in Brussels to find a consensus together with Ireland.

An Irish voter casts her ballot in DublinBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Irish voters were emphatic in their rejection of the Lisbon treaty

"We must work very closely with the Irish government to help solve this problem," Barroso told members of the European Parliament in Strasbourg on Wednesday after being harangued by a group of deputies wearing green sweat shirts emblazoned: "Respect the Irish Vote."

But the Social Democrats warned of a "crisis of trust" in EU institutions. It was worrying that all the major Irish parties had called for a yes vote and the electorate had still voted no, Social Democrat faction leader Martin Schulz said.

German calls for removal of Irish commissioner

On Wednesday, Schulz called for Irish EU Commissioner Charlie McCreevy to be removed from his post, accusing him of contributing to Ireland's rejection of the Lisbon Treaty.

"Mr McCreevy, responsible for the internal market, seen as a threat by European citizens, said he had not read the Lisbon Treaty," German Martin Schulz, told the European Parliament in Strasbourg. "How van you create confidence with this kind of behavior?" a visibly angry Schulz said.

Ireland was the only EU member that held a popular vote to approve the treaty, as required by the country's constitution.

So far, 18 of the 27 EU parliaments have approved the treaty, with Britain's upper house due to vote later Wednesday. All 27 member states have to ratify the treaty for it to take effect.

Members of the unelected upper chamber, the House of Lords were to debate the Lisbon Treaty for the third and final time, as part of the ratification process that Prime Minister Gordon Brown insists must continue.

Which way forward?

No one quite knows how to pull the EU out of its latest institutional quagmire.

Diplomats say leaders will listen carefully to what Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen has to say, and will then take time to think things over.

According to leaked results of an EU survey published on Tuesday by the Irish Independent, many of the people who voted no in the referendum did so either because they did not understand the treaty, or because they had other concerns, such as immigration and unemployment.

An Irish group hands out copies of the Lisbon Treaty to passersby in DublinBildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Handing out the treaty to Irish voters was not a bad idea - but who really read it and understood it?

Moreover, 70 percent of those who rejected the treaty thought it could be easily renegotiated. One possible solution is for Ireland to be granted a number of concessions before being asked to vote again, either in the autumn or early next year.

In the meantime, leaders have called for the remaining eight national parliaments to ratify the treaty and have avoided talking about a "two-speed Europe," whereby some member states would go ahead with further integration, leaving the sceptics behind.

"We want to continue with a one-speed Europe," Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Jansa said on Tuesday.

The Slovenian premier has been playing down the impact of the Irish vote, pointing out that the euro rose against the dollar in the immediate aftermath of the vote.

Barroso hits out at EU members

Barroso suggested the Irish referendum had been hijacked by misplaced fears and he took a swipe at EU member nations -- which hold the real power in Europe -- who blame the EU institutions for their political woes at home.

"Years of treating European institutions as a convenient scapegoat leave fertile ground for populist campaigns," he said. "You cannot bash Brussels and Strasbourg from Monday to Saturday and expect citizens to vote in favor of Europe on Sunday."

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Wiccabasket wrote:

This is not down to the NWO, but down to the economic policies and greed that have contributed to the credit crunch and economic decline of the USA.

although Amy's views may be a reach for others I can understand how she got there.

It's like you say Wicca,..
it comes down to the economic policies and greed that have created the credit crunch and decline of the USA... but many of those people have also in a way created the NWO.

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