Can't seem to find listed the criteria for SS Hall Of Fame. Upon viewing many of the 50 pages it appears that some people are nominating (and getting posted) just about every song they sing. Also, kids are cute, and a few of them have marvelous voices for their age, but the multiple postings of them because of family pride is simply ridiculous! There are some truly wonderful singers on SingSnap, in almost any song genre presented, but the HOF pages are too overloaded with a lot of the above mentioned screen hogs. So, what's up with that, SS? Seems that limitations should be heavily imposed relative to quality, quantity, and longevity, in order for it to truly be a Hall Of Fame. If a "true" Hall of Fame is too difficult to set up and maintain then get rid of it, because the way it is set up is a waste of space and so very unfair to the majority your subscribers. I don't know how the criteria could be set. I don't see and hear a lot of fine singers who should be featured this way, but I do hear singing Grannies warbling about "Balls", and other off-color renderings, and, bless their little pea-picking hearts, children who can't carry a tune in a bucket, and are in the HOF only because they're cute. When one nominates a singer/song to the HOF there is obviously a waiting period to the next posting, but are they automatically posted or is someone deciding which of the latest nominations will make the posting? After all, the word "nominate" suggests only possible selection, not a done deal. And for a legitimate nomination (as well as all others), i.e., a quality singer and song presentation, isn't it rather meaningless to drop the posting after three months? I would think some sort of permanence is conducive to a true posting to the HOF. After all, is the inductee any less great after the three months? Come on, SingSnap! Lets have a real Hall Of Fame and get rid of the current mockery!
Although I agree that the HOF does contain some recordings that are not necessarily fine music, I do believe we have to let the public decide what gets placed there, not just the select few that believe they know what it should be.
JettStream wrote: Can't seem to find listed the criteria for SS Hall Of Fame. Upon viewing many of the 50 pages it appears that some people are nominating (and getting posted) just about every song they sing. Also, kids are cute, and a few of them have marvelous voices for their age, but the multiple postings of them because of family pride is simply ridiculous! There are some truly wonderful singers on SingSnap, in almost any song genre presented, but the HOF pages are too overloaded with a lot of the above mentioned screen hogs. So, what's up with that, SS? Seems that limitations should be heavily imposed relative to quality, quantity, and longevity, in order for it to truly be a Hall Of Fame. If a "true" Hall of Fame is too difficult to set up and maintain then get rid of it, because the way it is set up is a waste of space and so very unfair to the majority your subscribers. I don't know how the criteria could be set. I don't see and hear a lot of fine singers who should be featured this way, but I do hear singing Grannies warbling about "Balls", and other off-color renderings, and, bless their little pea-picking hearts, children who can't carry a tune in a bucket, and are in the HOF only because they're cute. When one nominates a singer/song to the HOF there is obviously a waiting period to the next posting, but are they automatically posted or is someone deciding which of the latest nominations will make the posting? After all, the word "nominate" suggests only possible selection, not a done deal. And for a legitimate nomination (as well as all others), i.e., a quality singer and song presentation, isn't it rather meaningless to drop the posting after three months? I would think some sort of permanence is conducive to a true posting to the HOF. After all, is the inductee any less great after the three months? Come on, SingSnap! Lets have a real Hall Of Fame and get rid of the current mockery!
How come you made an account to Post this and did not use your original account?
tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!
That is why I started Tigger's Corner, the best of singsnap, not a popularity contest, to get in, but certain rules and criteria, showmanship stage presents vocal range and ability to sing clear recordings
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.
ohhhh someone got busted...lol
If you don't like HOF, just don't look at it..its really not a significant feature anyway. I've seen people solicit others to put this one in hof or that one in hof, and personally, i'd rather not beg anyone to put me in some silly pages that i never visit. lolol
I wish it was me... I always wanted to be someone else, but everytime I try it, there I am. I agree that the HOF is kind of a joke, much like the ratings, but since I don't look at it, it doesn't bother me.
I think it should remain a reflection of what the community appreciates no matter what the caliber of talent is, as long as the recording is of a Singsnap member making music.
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!
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Novella wrote:Do you still have a song on there?
I've never had a song on there, to my knowledge. I'd hope good taste would prevent such a travesty.
LMFAO!
Then I wasn't clear in my statement. My apologies. I was saying those of us who have never seen the HoF, meaning - only those of us who likely wouldn't have a song in the HoF, would consider it a joke.
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.
i agree with you too betty. wouldnt the world be a boring place if everyone had perfect pitch. I personally have nominated very few for HOF and they're expired now. (haha i just HAD to check) do we have 30 noms now as gold members? I have NO idea. Yesterday I think was the first day i looked at hof in months, because i read your other post, and then didnt bother to listen to any. but heres the other side of the coin...public appreciation is different than begging a vote. I think some people feel almost obligated to vote because they're asked to. I just wouldn't have the gall to do so, on my own or anyone elses songs. If i did, I think most people who REALLY know me would know who i'd want in hof. :) But i dont, and wont, and dont expect that. I'd never impose on anyone by asking such a thing and working on their heart strings. it's just not my way. :) So if someone is nominated by people who really appreciate them, then great, and i think thats saying something wonderful..but if someone is soliciting votes for that because this one is going thru this or that one is going thru a rough ingrown toenail, then naaaaa..its a begged vote and not worth much. Personally, when i get those solicitations in my pm, i automatically delete them. same for the come visit this song i so graciously sang for so and so. To each their own, but I just delete those as well, since most of the people who do that, i have NO idea who they are...lolol
Now, if it was a friend for a friend, then sure i'd go listen, but still doubt i'd nominate anyone. I just dont use those things.
I've never had a song on there, to my knowledge. I'd hope good taste would prevent such a travesty.
LMFAO!
Then I wasn't clear in my statement. My apologies. I was saying those of us who have never seen the HoF, meaning - only those of us who likely wouldn't have a song in the HoF, would consider it a joke.
Perhaps, but I'm sure there are also a lot of fine singers who will never appear in the HOF, for whatever reason. Not because of lack of talent, because I don't think talent is an issue in this case. Like Elvis, it's all in the marketing. ;p
Since there are well over 100,000 members by now, I'm sure (the article I read is dated by now) they can't all possibly be there... can they? lol
I think it's way too big, anyway. Just put the top vote getters for the past week in there, and let it cycle through. A top 100 would suffice.
although i sometimes get a PM asking me to go listen to some song by a person that I have never even had any contact with, I must say that I haven't gotten the HOF vote request yet.
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!
I've nominated peeps but according to their singing ability. Not wether they are popular or not or wether I knew them or not. I thought they sang so fantastic, I nominated them. Now wether I think the HOF is a joke or not, I don't care for it, I see no point in it. Have I been on the HOF? I have no idea lol. I was on the Top pages twice I think but only cuz I dueted with a real good singer( Dodge) and I had no clue I was even on it till someone messaged me about it lol. Like I said, I see no point in it. If ya want people to check out your song, promote it. Your friends are going to listen to ya and give you 5's wether you are on the HOF or not. So what's the difference? I am sure there is one but in my opinion, I don't see it :)
I always forget to nominate....and I just know that people forgot when they listened to me, too.....LMBO!! The only time I even look is when I see a thread or a post here that is talking about something on there...then I go to see what it's all about only because I'm really nosey.....LOL
A10cgirl wrote:I always forget to nominate....and I just know that people forgot when they listened to me, too.....LMBO!!
LOL - yep, that's my problem too, forgetful people!
I was told I was there once, like on page 972. I was too lazy to look for it, but, I'm pretty sure it looked the same on my recording page, just in a different folder. ;)
Posted by JettStream on May 13, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Can't seem to find listed the criteria for SS Hall Of Fame. Upon viewing many of the 50 pages it appears that some people are nominating (and getting posted) just about every song they sing. Also, kids are cute, and a few of them have marvelous voices for their age, but the multiple postings of them because of family pride is simply ridiculous!
There are some truly wonderful singers on SingSnap, in almost any song genre presented, but the HOF pages are too overloaded with a lot of the above mentioned screen hogs.
So, what's up with that, SS? Seems that limitations should be heavily imposed relative to quality, quantity, and longevity, in order for it to truly be a Hall Of Fame. If a "true" Hall of Fame is too difficult to set up and maintain then get rid of it, because the way it is set up is a waste of space and so very unfair to the majority your subscribers.
I don't know how the criteria could be set. I don't see and hear a lot of fine singers who should be featured this way, but I do hear singing Grannies warbling about "Balls", and other off-color renderings, and, bless their little pea-picking hearts, children who can't carry a tune in a bucket, and are in the HOF only because they're cute.
When one nominates a singer/song to the HOF there is obviously a waiting period to the next posting, but are they automatically posted or is someone deciding which of the latest nominations will make the posting? After all, the word "nominate" suggests only possible selection, not a done deal. And for a legitimate nomination (as well as all others), i.e., a quality singer and song presentation, isn't it rather meaningless to drop the posting after three months? I would think some sort of permanence is conducive to a true posting to the HOF. After all, is the inductee any less great after the three months?
Come on, SingSnap! Lets have a real Hall Of Fame and get rid of the current mockery!
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Although I agree that the HOF does contain some recordings that are not necessarily fine music, I do believe we have to let the public decide what gets placed there, not just the select few that believe they know what it should be.
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Reply by SingSnapSupportSTAFF on May 13, 2008 at 11:59 AM
How come you made an account to Post this and did not use your original account?
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Reply by sunshine_princessGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:01 PM
sunshine_princess says: when the sun shines we'll shine together...Because anonymous is always more fun!
*no it's not me, folks* lol.
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:10 PM
hehe
now i wanna know who the owner of the 'original' account is please :-)
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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:13 PM
tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!That is why I started Tigger's Corner, the best of singsnap, not a popularity contest, to get in, but certain rules and criteria,
showmanship
stage presents
vocal range and ability to sing
clear recordings
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Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:17 PM
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.ohhhh someone got busted...lol
If you don't like HOF, just don't look at it..its really not a significant feature anyway. I've seen people solicit others to put this one in hof or that one in hof, and personally, i'd rather not beg anyone to put me in some silly pages that i never visit. lolol
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!someone is busted! LOL
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Reply by PerSTAFF on May 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Hi "Jettstream", there is an entire section for this in the FAQ:
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/home/faq
Hopefully it will answer all your questions :)
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:19 PM
awww c'mon Tushy
beg just a little?
;-)
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Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:26 PM
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.lol not in public shug. *wink!
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!LOL ^^^ That's Funny.
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Reply by sanneGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:31 PM
who is JettStream?
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I wish it was me... I always wanted to be someone else, but everytime I try it, there I am. I agree that the HOF is kind of a joke, much like the ratings, but since I don't look at it, it doesn't bother me.
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Reply by tigress1167GOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM
tigress1167 check out challenge for all stars 273 comedy hour!!!!aint me, lol but wouldnt the staff be able to figure out who?
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!I betcha only those of us who've never seen the HoF or don't have a chance in hell in seeing it, would call it a joke! :oP... haha!
I don't think it's representative of vocal talent but I think it certainly represents what the community appreciates.
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:37 PM
hehe
i love how almost no-one ever looks at the HOF, yet it's most always one of the hot topics of debate
go figure, eh?
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:38 PM
I HAVE seen the HOF... wasn't that impressed. Whatever floats your boat.
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!Do you still have a song on there?
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!Ain't that the truth.
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Reply by bipolarbettyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:39 PM
bipolarbetty is happy.I think it should remain a reflection of what the community appreciates no matter what the caliber of talent is, as long as the recording is of a Singsnap member making music.
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Reply by Kitty987 on May 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM
To me it's just a popularity thing...if your not popular...your not gonna be in it! LOL
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I've never had a song on there, to my knowledge. I'd hope good taste would prevent such a travesty.
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 12:42 PM
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!I am sure they know who it is since they did bust them out on creating a new account, no?
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:43 PM
agreed Betty
there is more to making folks enjoy songs than just technicaly correct music
Elvis knew all about that :-)
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Reply by blazaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM
blaza -sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy :o)I thought HOF was an endearing term for David Hasselhof :OO
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Perhaps, or maybe they just noted that it was a newly created account? And since they seem to know all about it, they must be a member already?
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!LOL @ the HOF
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:46 PM
I didn't know he was well-liked enough to have an endearing term. :p
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!Probably. I would guess that all they would need to know is that they share the same IP address.
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:47 PM
when did popularity become a dirty word?
it's like - if you're popular and on the HOF, you should not be there because of it. why is that?
super models are on magazine covers because they are pretty. should that be a 'shame on them' ?
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Reply by blazaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:48 PM
blaza -sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy :o)I got no problem with people using the HOF to boost up someones ego. It's just a feature. Use it or don't. What difference does it make.
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Reply by blazaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM
blaza -sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy :o)Ok I bbl. Me and da HOF is goin for cheeseburgers rofl...
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Reply by melGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:49 PM
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Reply by melGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:50 PM
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Haha, sorry my cat wanted to share her opinion, too. Not sure if you can read it. LOL
Sure are a lot of 5's in it though! ;)
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Reply by gohogsGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:51 PM
...THAT made me Laugh out LOUD.. I spit my diet coke on the screen! ;)
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM
I'm not sure, but it may be banned under TOU, lol.
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!LMFAO!
Then I wasn't clear in my statement. My apologies. I was saying those of us who have never seen the HoF, meaning - only those of us who likely wouldn't have a song in the HoF, would consider it a joke.
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Reply by donnyxxxGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM
donnyxxx has now retired from singingwell it took over 12 mioinths for one of my songs to get on there, and it only made page 7..lol......so i aint bothered about hof anyway......
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 12:56 PM
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.i agree with you too betty. wouldnt the world be a boring place if everyone had perfect pitch. I personally have nominated very few for HOF and they're expired now. (haha i just HAD to check) do we have 30 noms now as gold members? I have NO idea. Yesterday I think was the first day i looked at hof in months, because i read your other post, and then didnt bother to listen to any. but heres the other side of the coin...public appreciation is different than begging a vote. I think some people feel almost obligated to vote because they're asked to. I just wouldn't have the gall to do so, on my own or anyone elses songs. If i did, I think most people who REALLY know me would know who i'd want in hof. :) But i dont, and wont, and dont expect that. I'd never impose on anyone by asking such a thing and working on their heart strings. it's just not my way. :) So if someone is nominated by people who really appreciate them, then great, and i think thats saying something wonderful..but if someone is soliciting votes for that because this one is going thru this or that one is going thru a rough ingrown toenail, then naaaaa..its a begged vote and not worth much. Personally, when i get those solicitations in my pm, i automatically delete them. same for the come visit this song i so graciously sang for so and so. To each their own, but I just delete those as well, since most of the people who do that, i have NO idea who they are...lolol
Now, if it was a friend for a friend, then sure i'd go listen, but still doubt i'd nominate anyone. I just dont use those things.
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Reply by pickinchooz on May 13, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Perhaps, but I'm sure there are also a lot of fine singers who will never appear in the HOF, for whatever reason. Not because of lack of talent, because I don't think talent is an issue in this case. Like Elvis, it's all in the marketing. ;p
Since there are well over 100,000 members by now, I'm sure (the article I read is dated by now) they can't all possibly be there... can they? lol
I think it's way too big, anyway. Just put the top vote getters for the past week in there, and let it cycle through. A top 100 would suffice.
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:01 PM
although i sometimes get a PM asking me to go listen to some song by a person that I have never even had any contact with, I must say that I haven't gotten the HOF vote request yet.
Always tomorrow though ;-)
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Reply by CheekylilvixenCONTRIBUTOR on May 13, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Cheekylilvixen ugh, too early to be awake! i wanna go back to bed!!!!!!!!I've nominated peeps but according to their singing ability. Not wether they are popular or not or wether I knew them or not. I thought they sang so fantastic, I nominated them.
Now wether I think the HOF is a joke or not, I don't care for it, I see no point in it. Have I been on the HOF? I have no idea lol. I was on the Top pages twice I think but only cuz I dueted with a real good singer( Dodge) and I had no clue I was even on it till someone messaged me about it lol. Like I said, I see no point in it. If ya want people to check out your song, promote it. Your friends are going to listen to ya and give you 5's wether you are on the HOF or not. So what's the difference? I am sure there is one but in my opinion, I don't see it :)
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Reply by LupiAppleTushyGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:03 PM
LupiAppleTushy asks, please keep good thoughts for joseph. thanks.*pm's shug asking him to nominate Sum_Southern_Sugar for his save a horse song. :P
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Reply by Sum_Southern_SugarGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:07 PM
lol Tushy
that would be a prime example of not good singing on the HOF
are you trying to get me in trubl here?
hehe
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Reply by A10cgirlGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I always forget to nominate....and I just know that people forgot when they listened to me, too.....LMBO!! The only time I even look is when I see a thread or a post here that is talking about something on there...then I go to see what it's all about only because I'm really nosey.....LOL
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Reply by Sadie on May 13, 2008 at 1:29 PM
LOL - yep, that's my problem too, forgetful people!
I was told I was there once, like on page 972. I was too lazy to look for it, but, I'm pretty sure it looked the same on my recording page, just in a different folder. ;)
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Reply by NovellaGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Novella has had a loooooooong day. she'll get to yer pms soon!LOL Sadie...
Didn't you know though.. Once they hit HoF, they have stereo sound! :OP
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Reply by Sadie on May 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM
LMAO! Now people are gonna be spamming their songs just to get nominated! You crack me up. :D
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Reply by JacquiGOLD on May 13, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Jacqui says: laughing stock:- cattle with a sense of humor.I'm always willing to sell or trade my noms for the HOF. No takers so far, tho!
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