CONSPIRACIES

I just watched this Autumn and there was a second video as well:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7pmuiSz-o&feature=related

Not quite sure how GWB figured into the equation. This is a first for me (hearing this) but anymore nothing surprises me!

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Of course it was murder, he was shot dead!

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Wiccabasket wrote:Of course it was murder, he was shot dead!

NO hun means JFK jnr... he died in an air crash

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connieg wrote:

Wiccabasket wrote:Of course it was murder, he was shot dead!

NO hun means JFK jnr... he died in an air crash

That will teach me posting whilst half asleep ;)

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He was going to make a speech to the American public about the Federal Reserve and Area 51. Of course they couldn't allow him to do that. It was definitely an inside job.

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So THAT is the rest of the story eh Amy? It hasn't been too long ago that I read about President JFK and what really went on behind his assassination... more Globalist activity there as well.

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there is a lot more to the JFK story then people realize Deb.
Like the fact that he was poisoned with shell fish (which he was allergic to) before he was shot.

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And the 911 Conspiracy but I'm too tired to go into it now way past mid night lol...........

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some interesting links..

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/jfk.html

this one shows the chauffeur putting a gun up on his shoulder. Look closely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veGk9Gj2sjU

another..
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/kennedy_zapruder.htm

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9/11, clearly a conspiracy

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Your cursed to be a Kennedy.

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Oh yes........ 911 baffles the mind! Absolutely incredible!

Off to look at your links Amy > > >

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has anyone checked out those links yet?

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**Waves Hand** I did :))

Some enlightening info there Amy

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indeed Deb. Did you see the chauffeur?
what do you think?

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I watched those when you first put them up.. may have to go back for a 2nd viewing as those 60s clips kinda blurry lol.

Interesting how the security guards were called away though huh.

And interesting how the "Eternal Flames" are put on the gravesites of these murdered people such as JFK and Princess Dianna...

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very very interesting. I am glad you watched the vid Deb.

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Of course JFK's death was a conspiracy, even a person like me (and JWB) with just the one active brain cell knows that. More than one man planned his death, hence, consiracy.
JFK Jn's though was most likely just what it appears, an accident, same as Princess Diana's. It just makes people money when the conspiracy theories abound, so it is really in someones financial interests to have these theories.

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Amymama wrote:9/11, clearly a conspiracy

I have to ask Amy. How do you get 911 being as a conspiracy? I have already heard a woman speak by the name of Noni {can't think of her last name at the moment} she was in the schools of Islam and learned what Jihad meant. She goes on to explain that when she saw the SECOND plane HIT the twin towers? She KNEW that Jihad had come to America!!!! They also tried to bomb the world trade center before so, I would like to hear your take on conspiracy theories that you may have.

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Amymama wrote:some interesting links..

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/JFK/jfk.html

this one shows the chauffeur putting a gun up on his shoulder. Look closely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veGk9Gj2sjU

another..
http://thebiggestsecretpict.online.fr/nwo/kennedy_zapruder.htm

WOW!!!

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deedeesing wrote:

Amymama wrote:9/11, clearly a conspiracy

I have to ask Amy. How do you get 911 being as a conspiracy? I have already heard a woman speak by the name of Noni {can't think of her last name at the moment} she was in the schools of Islam and learned what Jihad meant. She goes on to explain that when she saw the SECOND plane HIT the twin towers? She KNEW that Jihad had come to America!!!! They also tried to bomb the world trade center before so, I would like to hear your take on conspiracy theories that you may have.

actually dee i do believe that is was Jihad funded and cleared by the United States "Shadow Government"
Bush was fully aware of what was going to happen (imo)

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Amymama wrote:

deedeesing wrote:

Amymama wrote:9/11, clearly a conspiracy

I have to ask Amy. How do you get 911 being as a conspiracy? I have already heard a woman speak by the name of Noni {can't think of her last name at the moment} she was in the schools of Islam and learned what Jihad meant. She goes on to explain that when she saw the SECOND plane HIT the twin towers? She KNEW that Jihad had come to America!!!! They also tried to bomb the world trade center before so, I would like to hear your take on conspiracy theories that you may have.

actually dee i do believe that is was Jihad funded and cleared by the United States "Shadow Government"
Bush was fully aware of what was going to happen (imo)

But, why do you think like this? You are saying that he was fully aware of what was going to happen so, this is also saying that Bush KNEW all those people were going to die at the hands of those Radicals???? So, my next question to you is this: Do you think Bush is evil? Oops make this two questions ;o) And do you think that Bush had his OWN agenda concerning the oil since we only receive 17% of what we buy from the Middle East?

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I think that Bush is a sleeper in the white house. It is all Illuminati agenda. He merely carries out the plans for war and high oil prices.
The President doesn't stand for the American people.
JFK tried to and look what happened to him.

I really think you should see my thread in beliefs "the Mark"
Check out some of the new stuff that I have been posting if you get a moment.

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Is Bush evil? yes he is.
He looks out for his own and he has sold his soul for Money and power.
It's in his blood.

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You guys are nuts!!

dont mean to sound condescending but 911 was an act of terror ..Our president had no part of it.

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Amymama wrote:I think that Bush is a sleeper in the white house. It is all Illuminati agenda. He merely carries out the plans for war and high oil prices.
The President doesn't stand for the American people.
JFK tried to and look what happened to him.

I really think you should see my thread in beliefs "the Mark"
Check out some of the new stuff that I have been posting if you get a moment.

Ok hun. I sure will and yes, I question his actions too so, you are NOT alone!! I don't think most people like Bush anyway and there has to be a reason or reasons behind it!!! I do know of more things but WRONG thread to get into right now LOL Thanks Amy!! ;o)

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yw Dee. C ya in beliefs! (hugs)

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eileen wrote:You guys are nuts!!

dont mean to sound condescending but 911 was an act of terror ..Our president had no part of it.

I could show you many things that would make you change your mind about that eileen.
The Bush's history goes all the way back to Nazi Germany where his great grandfather was in the same skull and bones society as Hitler. shocking but true. The proof is out there.

He was Hitlers banker! He funded his acts of terror on the Jewish people. Would you like to know more?
look here. very disturbing
http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/

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another..
http://dark-truth.blogspot.com/2007/07/skull-bones-us-banks-financing-hitler.html

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I don't wish to sound as if I am U.S. knocking, but I would like to give a view by the average Brit on America.

Watching programs like "Cops", we see a lot of what we can only call Cranks and halfwits. We see George W as an ignorant know nothing, that was put in power by big business as are all American Presidents.
As for GWB being a sleeper, well he certainly seems to be in at least a daze all the time, but not intelligent enough to be anything other than a puppet. As for Gerry Springer's program, again refer to above with "Cops". Of course we know that not all Americans are like this, in fact only a very small proportion, but it does not show the American nation in a good light.
We have a program called "Big Brother" where a dozen or so ex. or to be, inmates of a lunatic asylum are put into a house to live together for 15 weeks, while some sad people watch and laugh at the unfortunates. An activity that was in fact, banned in the late 1800s. We also have our eccentrics, but most of those are and were a product of upper class inbreeding. Too many Americans, so it seems to us over here, see conspiracies in most things as do also see more UFO's than any other nationality.
All I can add is, can someone send some of that beer y'all drink, over here, so we can see things that aren't there.

PS. This is NOT a conspiratorial plot by the Brits. just some observations of some friends and aquaintances regarding the impression we get from some of the TV programs imported into Britain.

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fatalist wrote:I don't wish to sound as if I am U.S. knocking, but I would like to give a view by the average Brit on America.

Watching programs like "Cops", we see a lot of what we can only call Cranks and halfwits. We see George W as an ignorant know nothing, that was put in power by big business as are all American Presidents.
As for GWB being a sleeper, well he certainly seems to be in at least a daze all the time, but not intelligent enough to be anything other than a puppet. As for Gerry Springer's program, again refer to above with "Cops". Of course we know that not all Americans are like this, in fact only a very small proportion, but it does not show the American nation in a good light.
We have a program called "Big Brother" where a dozen or so ex. or to be, inmates of a lunatic asylum are put into a house to live together for 15 weeks, while some sad people watch and laugh at the unfortunates. An activity that was in fact, banned in the late 1800s. We also have our eccentrics, but most of those are and were a product of upper class inbreeding. Too many Americans, so it seems to us over here, see conspiracies in most things as do also see more UFO's than any other nationality.
All I can add is, can someone send some of that beer y'all drink, over here, so we can see things that aren't there.

PS. This is NOT a conspiratorial plot by the Brits. just some observations of some friends and aquaintances regarding the impression we get from some of the TV programs imported into Britain.

I agree with most of this. Well, except for the number of UFO reports in the US vs Other nations. Here's an example of why.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/GeneralSightings.htm

Judging by the maps, I'd say you all have better quality beer than we do. ;)

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I just started a new conspiracy theory...

http://www.singsnap.com/snap/forum/topic/ad283f3

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eileen wrote:You guys are nuts!!

dont mean to sound condescending but 911 was an act of terror ..Our president had no part of it.

Maybe not, but Cheney paid the bills. Also, gotta go with the physics re the fall of the towers - steel girder buildings dont fall from fire - EVER!

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The_Holy_Mole wrote:

eileen wrote:You guys are nuts!!

dont mean to sound condescending but 911 was an act of terror ..Our president had no part of it.

Maybe not, but Cheney paid the bills. Also, gotta go with the physics re the fall of the towers - steel girder buildings dont fall from fire - EVER!

You really should have some discussion with certified scientists and engineers that will refute your blanket statements.

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Or perhaps listen to the testamony of firefighters there that day stating that the buildings did not fall of their own accord?

Or ask why Norad couldnt track the incoming planes and intercept when they can track the minutest of items in space?

Or accept that Bin Laden was CIA trained?

Wake up and smell the oil profits!

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Also, even if the conspiracy theory is wrong - which i conceed it could be as its only a theory - then the Bush administration is at the very least guilty of criminal negligence over the handling of the warnings that were there before 911 occured.

Furthermore, the lack of transparency in the investigation has to suggest guilt of something - even if it was to cover up their incompetence.

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But I think it goes back to the Clinton Administration. They ignored alot.

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eileen wrote:But I think it goes back to the Clinton Administration. They ignored alot.

and atleast there isnt another one coming along.

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Amymama wrote:9/11, clearly a conspiracy

I totally agree with you Amy.........

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eileen wrote:You guys are nuts!!

dont mean to sound condescending but 911 was an act of terror ..Our president had no part of it.

We/I may be nuts but we are nice nuts whichever way you wanna chew us lol........

And there are some American nuts just like British nuts hahah

Let's sing "nuts whole hazel nuts, cadburys take them and they cover them in chocolate" mmmmmmmmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TApA1fyoSdk&feature=related

Can't resist this advert though

Get's me up all the time

Us Brits do have a sence or humour sometimes lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzSBbrID1FU

Our cars are crap but this ain't a British one hahahah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkxX1l6nRiM

Great music though :-)

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And you won't get any other better chocolate than "Cadbury's" :-)

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Only 12% of the American population believe that 9-11 was a conspiracy.

Glenn Beck on the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory (10/22/07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKppff5yQ8

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Arizonagal wrote:Only 12% of the American population believe that 9-11 was a conspiracy.

Well done for the 12% at least they have brains :-) lol....

At least the "Pentagon" that was supposedly hit by a 757 or 767 didn't do much damage. Not like the ones that hit the towers. Go figure lol........

The towers were brought down to the ground, but yet the roof didn't even collapse till hours later on the Pentagon. Gee I wonder why lol.....

Funny how they found and navigated and avoided the so called "airforce" of the USA and managed to get to the towers but yet didn't do their homework and hit the part of the Pentagon that was being renovated and had the least people and the less important people there.

They didn't even recognise that the other side of the Pentagon housed the "most" important Generals etc.....yeah right lol........

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I thought the USA had the most efficient "airforce" in the world. Where were they on that day? when people from the planes were even phoning their relatives telling them they had been hi jacked. Nah it just don't give with me. All that time and the USA Airforce couldn't intercept?

Your airforce must be bloody slow then lol.........

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Sultry_Eyes wrote:
I thought the USA had the most efficient "airforce" in the world. Where were they on that day? when people from the planes were even phoning their relatives telling them they had been hi jacked. Nah it just don't give with me. All that time and the USA Airforce couldn't intercept?

Actually, I'm numbered amongst the majority in my country who don't buy into anti-American propaganda!

What percentage of those outside of the U.S. believe in the 9-11 conspiracy theory?

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Arizonagal wrote:

Sultry_Eyes wrote:
I thought the USA had the most efficient "airforce" in the world. Where were they on that day? when people from the planes were even phoning their relatives telling them they had been hi jacked. Nah it just don't give with me. All that time and the USA Airforce couldn't intercept?

Actually, I'm numbered amongst the majority in my country who don't buy into anti-American propaganda!

What percentage of those outside of the U.S. believe in the 9-11 conspiracy theory?

Not found that yet Ari cos it's nearly 3am here but I found this.

I think a 3rd equals more than 12%

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:vmdRZycH5-UJ:www.scrippsnews.com/911poll+percentage+of+non+americans+dont+believe+the+

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don't know how to do the link but I'm sure you will figure it out...........

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Ok, thanks Susie... sleep well. :)

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CBS News, July 14, 2008 3:44pm

Bush's 9/11 Remarks
The President Addresses The Nation Five Years Later
THE WHITE HOUSE, Sept. 11, 2006

Five years ago, this date – September the 11th – was seared into America’s memory. Nineteen men attacked us with a barbarity unequaled in our history. They murdered people of all colors, creeds and nationalities – and made war upon the entire free world. Since that day, America and her allies have taken the offensive in a war unlike any we have fought before. Today, we are safer, but we are not yet safe.

Since the horror of Nine-Eleven, we have learned a great deal about the enemy. We have learned that they are evil and kill without mercy – but not without purpose. We have learned that they form a global network of extremists who are driven by a perverted vision of Islam – a totalitarian ideology that hates freedom, rejects tolerance, and despises all dissent. And we have learned that their goal is to build a radical Islamic empire where women are prisoners in their homes, men are beaten for missing prayer meetings, and terrorists have a safe haven to plan and launch attacks on America and other civilized nations. The war against this enemy is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century, and the calling of our generation.

Our nation is being tested in a way that we have not been since the start of the Cold War. We saw what a handful of our enemies can do with box-cutters and plane tickets. We hear their threats to launch even more terrible attacks on our people. And we know that if they were able to get their hands on weapons of mass destruction, they would use them against us. We face an enemy determined to bring death and suffering into our homes. America did not ask for this war, and every American wishes it were over. So do I. But the war is not over – and it will not be over until either we or the extremists emerge victorious. If we do not defeat these enemies now, we will leave our children to face a Middle East overrun by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons. We are in a war that will set the course for this new century – and determine the destiny of millions across the world.

For America, Nine-Eleven was more than a tragedy – it changed the way we look at the world. On September the 11th, we resolved that we would go on the offense against our enemies – and we would not distinguish between the terrorists and those who harbor or support them. So we helped drive the Taliban from power in Afghanistan. We put al Qaeda on the run, and killed or captured most of those who planned the Nine-Eleven attacks – including the man believed to be the mastermind, Khalid Sheik Mohammed. He and other suspected terrorists have been questioned by the Central Intelligence Agency – and they have provided valuable information that has helped stop attacks in America and across the world. Now these men have been transferred to Guantanamo Bay, so they can be held to account for their actions. Osama Bin Laden and other terrorists are still in hiding. Our message to them is clear: No matter how long it takes, America will find you, and we will bring you to justice.

full transcript:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/11/september11/main1999198.shtml

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PASSPORT

Mohammed Atta's passport sailing through the New York sky
Settled safely in the dust and was discovered by the FBI
As the passport drifted down
Landing safely on the ground
Black smoke filled a clear blue sky
Frightened people hurried by

200,000 tons of steel can take a lot of heat
But not as mach as Atta's passport
They found it out on Vesey Street
Jet fuel immolation made dust out of cement
Mohammed Atta's passport was an iron-clad document

They say that flight 11 was destroyed upon impact
Mohammed Atta's passport was miraculously left intact
Somewhere out there in the sky
Mohammed's passport sailing by
Where happy little bluebirds fly

The black box didn't make it
The recorder wasn't found
Mohammed Atta's passport
Was right there on the ground

Just a piece of paper in an ocean of debris
Mohammed Atta's passport went floating on the breeze
Don't know what he had it for
He doesn't need it anymore
Above the friendly skies are blue
Below we don't know what we'll do
If Mohammed Atta's passport flies above the clouds then why, oh why, oh why

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