Posted by redelleGOLD on August 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I don't understand? I was told I was singing off key and I never even placed in a contest... I don't understand do I seriously suck? What is wrong with my voice!!!???
Reply by mandapanda806 on August 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Listened to a little bit of all 4 recordings you have put up here.
I think you have a very clear and beautiful voice. The first song (Let it Snow) you ended up making it more your own style instead of singing it the straight traditional way. I've done that with songs before and then would have someone comment or pm me saying that I sang out of tune.
When in fact I was just making it MY style! Which I loved the version you sang by the way :)
So don't let it get you down! You have a wonderful instrument there!
When i Comment on someone out of tune i got blocked and My nic been spread to give me the elbow now no one leaves comments . I was only saying what i thought.Peter
People aren't expecting "jazz" level sophistication unless it's prefaced as such. I would ALWAYS tell them assuming the setting is mainly traditional that you are "making a song your own", or doing "Jazz improv" in a different genre contest !
Since you are trained in jazz you will understand what I am stating, most that have any knowledge of music will understand what I am saying... You sang an improvisational melodic structure on "Let it Snow" which was tastefully and creatively done, however NOT being the traditional melodic line sung -a particular listener was thrown off not realizing you were "jazz oriented" and doing a jazz improv rendition of the melody to the song.. As you know, A person expecting to hear the traditional rendition of "Let it Snow" would expect to hear the lead-in note which you do sing as Db (the word-Oh) but they would also anticipate hearing the following melodic string- . . . . The(Db)Wea(Eb)ther(Eb)out(Db)side(C)is(Bb)Fright(Ab)dul(Eb)
The innovative melodic line thru them off.. I've never heard Lena Horne sing this song, does she use the traditional melody or does she do this same improv melody ?
If a person never listened to your other songs, assuming they weren't expecting a jazz improv rendition, if they DID NOT know you were jazz trained, they might assume you had a problem with pitch matching melodic structure however CLEARLY that is NOT the case.. You threw a listener off with improv.
I've listened to your other songs there is NO problem at all with your pitch matching or any aspects of your singing that at least *I* could notice.. You are versatile, and noticeably have considerable singing experience..
A listener expecting a cover rendition, not knowing a singer, will not expect to hear somebody making this type of a song "Their own" in a predominantly non-jazz genre venue, that's all this is about.
OK, Now I'm going to try to sing a gender-bender of Anita Baker...HAHAHAHAHAHA
(wish I had a good enough ear to do "Giving you the best that I've got") Love that song ! Had to accompany a few females that sang it. BRUTAL all around in terms of difficulty level.
Remember, these contests here on the site are contests ANY person at ANY age can host... I'd suggest given that factor you preface "jazz genre" as such in the body of your song, othewise it'll go over the listeners head.. Many don't understand certain aspects of sophistication in these settings... However of course MORE do !
(LOL- Perhaps I'll preface all my songs as being "jazz", because until I learn how to sing, A LOT is going to sound quite "creative") :(
I noticed the site has Anita Bakers song I mentioned. It doesn't suprise me that only the most daring have attempted it..HEHEHEHEHE. Jazzybags did a real nice rendition of the song in Karaokescene last year...
Honestly, (from what I have seen and personally witnessed in SOME of these ridiculous contests), I would suggest an advanced vocalist only enter contests hosted by experienced singers that know how to host a contest.. I can't sing, and have noticed some of the weird stuff that's happened in a few contests such as kids arbitrarily changing theme every other day on whim, hosts disappearing off the face of the earth.. etc etc... NAH, no more contests here for me unless the hosts are adult musicians and have a clue what running a contest is about.
You are over qualified for certain contests, just keep that in mind.. If listeners don't recognise what you are doing, you are creating frustration for yourself entering certain contests.
Why not host a "Jazz" contest of your own ? It would be fun, and a means of the more experienced singers to enjoy themselves doing something advanced.
Reply by wonkim00GOLD on September 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Excellent and spot-on response, Steven_Kaplan! Bravo!
You sound great, redelle...don't let contests get you down. It doesn't mean much if you don't advance -- just that you were not to the taste of the particular decision makers in that contest. It's certainly not a reflection on your singing abilities.
My advice is to sing because you love it, not to impress anyone, and definitely don't let anyone's opinion stress you out.
redelle wrote:I don't understand? I was told I was singing off key and I never even placed in a contest... I don't understand do I seriously suck? What is wrong with my voice!!!???
Is it that I'm an alto!? what is it!????? I'm jazz trained for god sake!!!!! ARGHHHH!!!! *shoots self in head*
By no stretch of the imagination do you suck, someone probably told you because they were jealous, or they are just dumb, the best advice I can give to you, is just keep singing, no matter what people say, if you love it, do it, and don't listen to any negative comments that people make, listening to them dosen't help at all
Reply by WombatboyGOLD on October 2, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Well, I'm not a good singer and I know zilch about singing, but I do listen here way more than I should, and know what sounds good to me. I listened to the 4 songs you listed, and think you have an exceptional voice and sing very well. You might not ever be my favorite singer, simply because I'm not personally into jazz, which has nothing to do with the talent and skill involved in singing it. "True", I like better than the original version. I hear nothing not to like in your singing, and can't comprehend that anyone would think that you sing badly, no matter what their own personal taste. Just keep on doin' what you love.
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Posted by redelleGOLD on August 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM
I don't understand? I was told I was singing off key and I never even placed in a contest... I don't understand do I seriously suck?
What is wrong with my voice!!!???
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/b6ad4b25
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/b1a0e411
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/afceab83
http://www.singsnap.com/snap/r/b4e22409
Is it that I'm an alto!? what is it!?????
I'm jazz trained for god sake!!!!! ARGHHHH!!!!
*shoots self in head*
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Reply by redelleGOLD on August 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
anyone?
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Reply by karaokegod73GOLD on August 10, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I listened to "True" and didn't hear anything wrong with it. Maybe I'm deaf? LOL
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Reply by moongoddessladyGOLD on August 11, 2008 at 3:01 PM
I'm by no means an expert (couldn't tell one key from another... terrible, I know huh?) but you sound good to me.
Dunno what the deal is :(
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Reply by candi_4687GOLD on August 12, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Just wanted to say I think you have a very lovely voice.
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Reply by mandapanda806 on August 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Listened to a little bit of all 4 recordings you have put up here.
I think you have a very clear and beautiful voice. The first song (Let it Snow) you ended up making it more your own style instead of singing it the straight traditional way. I've done that with songs before and then would have someone comment or pm me saying that I sang out of tune.
When in fact I was just making it MY style! Which I loved the version you sang by the way :)
So don't let it get you down! You have a wonderful instrument there!
~Amanda~
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Reply by Red_Dragon21GOLD on September 9, 2008 at 12:43 PM
When i Comment on someone out of tune i got blocked and My nic been spread to give me the elbow now no one leaves comments . I was only saying what i thought.Peter
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on September 28, 2008 at 2:46 AM
People aren't expecting "jazz" level sophistication unless it's prefaced as such. I would ALWAYS tell them assuming the setting is mainly traditional that you are "making a song your own", or doing "Jazz improv" in a different genre contest !
Since you are trained in jazz you will understand what I am stating, most that have any knowledge of music will understand what I am saying... You sang an improvisational melodic structure on "Let it Snow" which was tastefully and creatively done, however NOT being the traditional melodic line sung -a particular listener was thrown off not realizing you were "jazz oriented" and doing a jazz improv rendition of the melody to the song..
As you know, A person expecting to hear the traditional rendition of "Let it Snow" would expect to hear the lead-in note which you do sing as Db (the word-Oh) but they would also anticipate hearing the following melodic string-
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The(Db)Wea(Eb)ther(Eb)out(Db)side(C)is(Bb)Fright(Ab)dul(Eb)
The innovative melodic line thru them off.. I've never heard Lena Horne sing this song, does she use the traditional melody or does she do this same improv melody ?
If a person never listened to your other songs, assuming they weren't expecting a jazz improv rendition, if they DID NOT know you were jazz trained, they might assume you had a problem with pitch matching melodic structure however CLEARLY that is NOT the case.. You threw a listener off with improv.
I've listened to your other songs there is NO problem at all with your pitch matching or any aspects of your singing that at least *I* could notice.. You are versatile, and noticeably have considerable singing experience..
A listener expecting a cover rendition, not knowing a singer, will not expect to hear somebody making this type of a song "Their own" in a predominantly non-jazz genre venue, that's all this is about.
OK, Now I'm going to try to sing a gender-bender of Anita Baker...HAHAHAHAHAHA
(wish I had a good enough ear to do "Giving you the best that I've got") Love that song ! Had to accompany a few females that sang it. BRUTAL all around in terms of difficulty level.
Remember, these contests here on the site are contests ANY person at ANY age can host... I'd suggest given that factor you preface "jazz genre" as such in the body of your song, othewise it'll go over the listeners head.. Many don't understand certain aspects of sophistication in these settings... However of course MORE do !
(LOL- Perhaps I'll preface all my songs as being "jazz", because until I learn how to sing, A LOT is going to sound quite "creative") :(
I noticed the site has Anita Bakers song I mentioned. It doesn't suprise me that only the most daring have attempted it..HEHEHEHEHE. Jazzybags did a real nice rendition of the song in Karaokescene last year...
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on September 28, 2008 at 3:25 AM
Honestly, (from what I have seen and personally witnessed in SOME of these ridiculous contests), I would suggest an advanced vocalist only enter contests hosted by experienced singers that know how to host a contest.. I can't sing, and have noticed some of the weird stuff that's happened in a few contests such as kids arbitrarily changing theme every other day on whim, hosts disappearing off the face of the earth.. etc etc... NAH, no more contests here for me unless the hosts are adult musicians and have a clue what running a contest is about.
You are over qualified for certain contests, just keep that in mind.. If listeners don't recognise what you are doing, you are creating frustration for yourself entering certain contests.
Why not host a "Jazz" contest of your own ? It would be fun, and a means of the more experienced singers to enjoy themselves doing something advanced.
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Reply by melGOLD on September 28, 2008 at 7:47 AM
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Reply by wonkim00GOLD on September 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Excellent and spot-on response, Steven_Kaplan! Bravo!
You sound great, redelle...don't let contests get you down. It doesn't mean much if you don't advance -- just that you were not to the taste of the particular decision makers in that contest. It's certainly not a reflection on your singing abilities.
My advice is to sing because you love it, not to impress anyone, and definitely don't let anyone's opinion stress you out.
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Reply by AaronC_ on October 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM
By no stretch of the imagination do you suck, someone probably told you because they were jealous, or they are just dumb, the best advice I can give to you, is just keep singing, no matter what people say, if you love it, do it, and don't listen to any negative comments that people make, listening to them dosen't help at all
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Reply by WombatboyGOLD on October 2, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Well, I'm not a good singer and I know zilch about singing, but I do listen here way more than I should, and know what sounds good to me. I listened to the 4 songs you listed, and think you have an exceptional voice and sing very well. You might not ever be my favorite singer, simply because I'm not personally into jazz, which has nothing to do with the talent and skill involved in singing it. "True", I like better than the original version. I hear nothing not to like in your singing, and can't comprehend that anyone would think that you sing badly, no matter what their own personal taste. Just keep on doin' what you love.
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Reply by missmelissa23GOLD on October 5, 2008 at 12:11 AM
missmelissa23 is celebrating her boyfriends birthday tonight!!You have a lovely voice.
But I feel that you lack vocal energy......but it's easy to get there.
Just put more energy into what you're singing. Altos sometimes have a problem with that b/c without energy their voice sounds like it's dragging.
More energy please, but keep up the lovely singing!
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