I was thinking of joining a religion, but I don't know which one.....I kinda want to pick the right one to avoid hell. The thing is everybody is so sure that there religion is the right one. Decisions, Decisions.......I would like some advice on the matter..... Thank you so much
I suggest studying up on different religions. As a Christian I must say... Jesus is the only way to Heaven. You must fully repent of your sins though. It's not like you can just join Christianity like a club or something.
I would be happy to help you make the most important decision in life (and death) that you will ever make if you want me to. :)
I don't really think you are serious about joining the Church anyway kmonster. Why exactly are you posting all of this? I saw on another thread that you believe only in science.
Amymama wrote:I suggest studying up on different religions. As a Christian I must say... Jesus is the only way to Heaven. You must fully repent of your sins though. It's not like you can just join Christianity like a club or something.
I would be happy to help you make the most important decision in life (and death) that you will ever make if you want me to. :)
How could you help? Have you been a Christian all your life or have you actually tried any of the other thousands of religions out there?
What if your "path" is wrong or mine? I thought it might get some wheels turning in peoples heads. What Im asking is valid and logical.... and if someone could sell me on there religion and it was reasonable Im all for it. It don't necessarily have to be scientifically sound , Just reasonable.
Steven_Kaplan wrote:Seriously, Join a religion that conforms to your beliefs, otherwise why join at all ? Joining a religion isn't an "eeny-meeny-miney-mo" thing
That doesn't mean it will be the right one.....thats what Im asking
I do not ask myself if I am on the wrong path because I have decided to trust my Life to God.
So just say I am right and when I do die, I have eternal Salvation and all of the answers to every question I ever had. I am reunited with every loved one that I have ever lost!
Now, say I am wrong and there is only Science then I have still lived a fruitful life with many rewards and blessings. I have gotten to be a Mother four times and wife to the most wonderful husband in the world. I have been able to reach out to people in their times of need, Feed the poor and I have used these two hands to help someone up. There is no greater joy then the joy that I experience when I am helping others. I may die and cease to exist all together but I have lived life to the fullest as far as I am concerned and I couldn't have done it all without Jesus on my side. That is just the way I feel. That is reasonable right? :)
I do not ask myself if I am on the wrong path because I have decided to trust my Life to God.
So just say I am right and when I do die, I have eternal Salvation and all of the answers to every question I ever had. I am reunited with every loved one that I have ever lost!
Now, say I am wrong and there is only Science then I have still lived a fruitful life with many rewards and blessings. I have gotten to be a Mother four times and wife to the most wonderful husband in the world. I have been able to reach out to people in their times of need, Feed the poor and I have used these two hands to help someone up. There is no greater joy then the joy that I experience when I am helping others. I may die and cease to exist all together but I have lived life to the fullest as far as I am concerned and I couldn't have done it all without Jesus on my side. That is just the way I feel. That is reasonable right? :)
Not really because if you cease to exist . Jesus really wouldn't have been by your side...
Amymama wrote:I was atheist at one time, then i was a pagan, i then went onto be agnostic and now finally praise the Lord i am a born again Christian.
I could help.. If you are truly interested and not just poking fun. :)
Seriously what made you pick Christianity?
I chose to be Christian because The story of Jesus touched my heart and soul. In the presence of fellowship with other Christians, I felt warmth and love. I found that I do not have to be like everyone else in this world or really be of this world at all to be happy. The day I asked Jesus into my heart i felt a weight lift completely from my shoulders. A heaviness that I carried all of my life just suddenly vanished. There really are no words to describe this supernatural feeling. But I knew that I could never be without God ever again.
Someone who used to be on here went to be in a relationship with a born again christian.. but she used to kick him out on Saturday night about 3am so that nobody would know that he spent the night at her house leaving for sunday morning for church........
that's just fooling humans but not god isn't it? monday and weds it was ok though! :/
I do not ask myself if I am on the wrong path because I have decided to trust my Life to God.
So just say I am right and when I do die, I have eternal Salvation and all of the answers to every question I ever had. I am reunited with every loved one that I have ever lost!
Now, say I am wrong and there is only Science then I have still lived a fruitful life with many rewards and blessings. I have gotten to be a Mother four times and wife to the most wonderful husband in the world. I have been able to reach out to people in their times of need, Feed the poor and I have used these two hands to help someone up. There is no greater joy then the joy that I experience when I am helping others. I may die and cease to exist all together but I have lived life to the fullest as far as I am concerned and I couldn't have done it all without Jesus on my side. That is just the way I feel. That is reasonable right? :)
Not really because if you cease to exist . Jesus really wouldn't have been by your side...
Not so... In my mind and heart he would have been existent so that is what made me the kind loving caring person that I was when I was alive. Believing in Jesus is what carried me through a life of trials.
wow it is really so weird speaking in past tense like I have passed away. lol
kmonster420 wrote: I kinda want to pick the right one to avoid hell.
lol Edit: In case you are serious - wanting to pick a religion based on fear of hell is like picking a side during war time based on the odds of death. It lacks principles and integrity. Fear is an awful thing to base decisions on. In any case, as you stated already, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. That makes personal principles all the more important. Stay true to you.
edit again: okay, I read the rest of the thread. :P
I do not ask myself if I am on the wrong path because I have decided to trust my Life to God.
So just say I am right and when I do die, I have eternal Salvation and all of the answers to every question I ever had. I am reunited with every loved one that I have ever lost!
Now, say I am wrong and there is only Science then I have still lived a fruitful life with many rewards and blessings. I have gotten to be a Mother four times and wife to the most wonderful husband in the world. I have been able to reach out to people in their times of need, Feed the poor and I have used these two hands to help someone up. There is no greater joy then the joy that I experience when I am helping others. I may die and cease to exist all together but I have lived life to the fullest as far as I am concerned and I couldn't have done it all without Jesus on my side. That is just the way I feel. That is reasonable right? :)
Not really because if you cease to exist . Jesus really wouldn't have been by your side...
Not so... In my mind and heart he would have been existent so that is what made me the kind loving caring person that I was when I was alive. Believing in Jesus is what carried me through a life of trials.
wow it is really so weird speaking in past tense like I have passed away. lol
I can understand that.....doesn't make it true, but that makes sense to me. A crutch sorta
yea sorta but i really don't think I am wrong because I am also a huge studier of prophecy and end times and it is very clear that prophecy from the Holy Bible is being fulfilled as we speak. The things that Jesus spoke of are coming to pass. To me this makes it very clear that God is in control.
kmonster420 wrote: I kinda want to pick the right one to avoid hell.
lol Edit: In case you are serious - wanting to pick a religion based on fear of hell is like picking a side during war time based on the odds of death. It lacks principles and integrity. Fear is an awful thing to base decisions on. In any case, as you stated already, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. That makes personal principles all the more important. Stay true to you.
Well said, You are very wise.....I take it your not a Christian....
Amymama wrote:yea sorta but i really don't think I am wrong because I am also a huge studier of prophecy and end times and it is very clear that prophecy from the Holy Bible is being fulfilled as we speak. The things that Jesus spoke of are coming to pass. To me this makes it very clear that God is in control.
Can you fill me in on any of these prophecy's..... Maybe just the most convincing one?
Amymama wrote:yea sorta but i really don't think I am wrong because I am also a huge studier of prophecy and end times and it is very clear that prophecy from the Holy Bible is being fulfilled as we speak. The things that Jesus spoke of are coming to pass. To me this makes it very clear that God is in control.
Can you fill me in on any of these prophecy's..... Maybe just the most convincing one?
So much to go over my friend. Perhaps you would like to check out my thread "The Mark" You can get a whole lot of info there if you are seeking it.
Right now I need to get to bed. I just realized how late it is and I have to get up early to get the kids to VBS. I hope you will take a look if you have a chance. Hugs everyone.. nite
Steven_Kaplan wrote:I don't think born again christians are supposed to be having premarital sex.. I might be wrong, but I believe that's not allowable.
Yea that's why she used to kick him out so nobody would see him around on Sunday morning... but she didn't on the other two days.. and he was only allowed a few days cos she was on benefits.. LOL
She was just kidding herself really... I guess once they marry it won't be a problem lol
LOL.. I've always considered being able to sweat the small stuff quite a luxury. "What the neighbors think on Church day", I just can't imagine having so little else to concern myself with that I'd worry about that.
I've been searching for a religion too.. One that has no requirements, no phobia inducing doctrines, and actually has a deity that loves what he creates rather than spends all his time fault finding, No concept of "Hell", none of this polarized all or none stuff (since the world is grey)...
Yeah, But you have to understand, For those that don't have actually tragedy in their lives they have the time to consume themselves with rank here. You have to remember, to deal with tragedy, you first need to be able to afford the game of golf. Once you are a golfer thats when you understand what true Hell is about.. "Low Golf scores". You really have to feel sorry for some of these unfortunate white collar executives who's life topples as they slice their golfball into the woods someplace :( I get a lump in my throat thinking about such tragedy..
Somebody hold me, I feel copious tears about to swell from the dams my tear-ducts can hold back no more :(
Not all of us can handle stress. I remember that time about 40 years ago at the miniture golf course... All of a sudden the arm if the windmill blocked my ball and it went into the water :(
Steven_Kaplan wrote:I've been searching for a religion too.. One that has no requirements, no phobia inducing doctrines, and actually has a deity that loves what he creates rather than spends all his time fault finding, No concept of "Hell", none of this polarized all or none stuff (since the world is grey)...
I suppose the closest I can find is Agnosticism
Have you looked into taoism? It's more of a philosophy, really.
No, I think that's something I will look into now, just get a rough idea what it is about on the Internet. A lot of the Eastern religions are pretty much philosophies anyway, aren't they ? or am I incorrect about this ?
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I was thinking of joining a religion, but I don't know which one.....I kinda want to pick the right one to avoid hell. The thing is everybody is so sure that there religion is the right one. Decisions, Decisions.......I would like some advice on the matter..... Thank you so much
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Reply by ladylikepsychGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:00 AM
ladylikepsych must go to sleep now...g'nightdo what YOU think is right...but catholics are great ;o)
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Become a Jehovah Witness..
You won't have to buy any Christmas presents....
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:03 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA, yet you don't get birthday presents either !
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I suggest studying up on different religions.
As a Christian I must say... Jesus is the only way to Heaven.
You must fully repent of your sins though. It's not like you can just join Christianity like a club or something.
I would be happy to help you make the most important decision in life (and death) that you will ever make if you want me to. :)
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM
My congregation is looking for a few members..
"Our Lady of the Slovenly Ho" Church and Pub..
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Seriously, Join a religion that conforms to your beliefs, otherwise why join at all ? Joining a religion isn't an "eeny-meeny-miney-mo" thing
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Reply by scarlettohallGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:09 AM
scarlettohall wonders when the sanity will returnDitto! ;P
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Reply by kmonster420GOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:23 AM
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:24 AM
nm
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Reply by kmonster420GOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Good point....... but all that door knocking. I hate spammers!
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:32 AM
I don't really think you are serious about joining the Church anyway kmonster. Why exactly are you posting all of this?
I saw on another thread that you believe only in science.
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 12:34 AM
I think you should join 'the church of the holey Connie socks'
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:38 AM
I was atheist at one time, then i was a pagan, i then went onto be agnostic and now finally praise the Lord i am a born again Christian.
I could help.. If you are truly interested and not just poking fun. :)
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Reply by kmonster420GOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:46 AM
What if your "path" is wrong or mine? I thought it might get some wheels turning in peoples heads. What Im asking is valid and logical.... and if someone could sell me on there religion and it was reasonable Im all for it. It don't necessarily have to be scientifically sound , Just reasonable.
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 12:57 AM
reasonable i can do... :)
I do not ask myself if I am on the wrong path because I have decided to trust my Life to God.
So just say I am right and when I do die, I have eternal Salvation and all of the answers to every question I ever had. I am reunited with every loved one that I have ever lost!
Now, say I am wrong and there is only Science then I have still lived a fruitful life with many rewards and blessings.
I have gotten to be a Mother four times and wife to the most wonderful husband in the world. I have been able to reach out to people in their times of need, Feed the poor and I have used these two hands to help someone up.
There is no greater joy then the joy that I experience when I am helping others.
I may die and cease to exist all together but I have lived life to the fullest as far as I am concerned and I couldn't have done it all without Jesus on my side.
That is just the way I feel.
That is reasonable right? :)
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:03 AM
I chose to be Christian because The story of Jesus touched my heart and soul.
In the presence of fellowship with other Christians, I felt warmth and love.
I found that I do not have to be like everyone else in this world or really be of this world at all to be happy.
The day I asked Jesus into my heart i felt a weight lift completely from my shoulders.
A heaviness that I carried all of my life just suddenly vanished.
There really are no words to describe this supernatural feeling.
But I knew that I could never be without God ever again.
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 1:04 AM
Someone who used to be on here went to be in a relationship with a born again christian.. but she used to kick him out on Saturday night about 3am so that nobody would know that he spent the night at her house leaving for sunday morning for church........
that's just fooling humans but not god isn't it?
monday and weds it was ok though! :/
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Join the Amish. see all the startled eyes appear staring pensively into your window as you turn on a television set.
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:06 AM
Not so... In my mind and heart he would have been existent so that is what made me the kind loving caring person that I was when I was alive. Believing in Jesus is what carried me through a life of trials.
wow it is really so weird speaking in past tense like I have passed away. lol
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Reply by Hotstepper on July 25, 2008 at 1:06 AM
lol
Edit: In case you are serious - wanting to pick a religion based on fear of hell is like picking a side during war time based on the odds of death. It lacks principles and integrity. Fear is an awful thing to base decisions on.
In any case, as you stated already, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. That makes personal principles all the more important. Stay true to you.
edit again: okay, I read the rest of the thread. :P
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:08 AM
She's not supposed to be doing any of that stuff any day..LOL... Premarital no-noisms !
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:10 AM
I read someplace that "Salvation Army" is a religion ? Is this true ?
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Reply by kmonster420GOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:14 AM
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:15 AM
Is Hell humid, or just hot ? I'm just wondering how similar it is to Connecticut
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM
yea sorta but i really don't think I am wrong because I am also a huge studier of prophecy and end times and it is very clear that prophecy from the Holy Bible is being fulfilled as we speak. The things that Jesus spoke of are coming to pass.
To me this makes it very clear that God is in control.
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Try living in West Texas in the Summertime! lol
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Reply by Hotstepper on July 25, 2008 at 1:24 AM
You say that because you agree.
I give you that I am not Christian.
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Reply by kmonster420GOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:25 AM
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:29 AM
I can imagine it gets brutally hot there. Is a lot of the area desert ?
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:33 AM
So much to go over my friend.
Perhaps you would like to check out my thread "The Mark"
You can get a whole lot of info there if you are seeking it.
Right now I need to get to bed. I just realized how late it is and I have to get up early to get the kids to VBS.
I hope you will take a look if you have a chance.
Hugs everyone.. nite
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Reply by AmymamaGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:34 AM
Yep desert kappy.
I live right in the sweaty armpit of Texas. lol
nite
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Wasn't it me that enlightening you into the mark Amy?
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 1:40 AM
It's not a born again christian belief as such is it....
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:42 AM
I don't think born again christians are supposed to be having premarital sex.. I might be wrong, but I believe that's not allowable.
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Now here's a healthy looking religion. It's tenets just make you want to sign right up !!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_euthanasia
I've heard the "Shaker" population in Maine for some reason is diminishing. Perhaps that'd be a decent religion :)
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Yea that's why she used to kick him out so nobody would see him around on Sunday morning... but she didn't on the other two days.. and he was only allowed a few days cos she was on benefits.. LOL
She was just kidding herself really...
I guess once they marry it won't be a problem lol
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:47 AM
LOL.. I've always considered being able to sweat the small stuff quite a luxury. "What the neighbors think on Church day", I just can't imagine having so little else to concern myself with that I'd worry about that.
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Reply by conniegSITE-ADMIN on July 25, 2008 at 1:54 AM
I know.. it's bad enough having to worry about ratings on here!
haahhaha!!
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 1:54 AM
I've been searching for a religion too.. One that has no requirements, no phobia inducing doctrines, and actually has a deity that loves what he creates rather than spends all his time fault finding, No concept of "Hell", none of this polarized all or none stuff (since the world is grey)...
I suppose the closest I can find is Agnosticism
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 2:01 AM
Yeah, But you have to understand, For those that don't have actually tragedy in their lives they have the time to consume themselves with rank here. You have to remember, to deal with tragedy, you first need to be able to afford the game of golf. Once you are a golfer thats when you understand what true Hell is about.. "Low Golf scores". You really have to feel sorry for some of these unfortunate white collar executives who's life topples as they slice their golfball into the woods someplace :( I get a lump in my throat thinking about such tragedy..
Somebody hold me, I feel copious tears about to swell from the dams my tear-ducts can hold back no more :(
Not all of us can handle stress. I remember that time about 40 years ago at the miniture golf course... All of a sudden the arm if the windmill blocked my ball and it went into the water :(
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 2:10 AM
Problem with religion is there's too much sexism.. IE.. Just my gender alone would prevent me from becoming a nun !
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Reply by Hotstepper on July 25, 2008 at 2:12 AM
Have you looked into taoism? It's more of a philosophy, really.
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Reply by Steven_KaplanGOLD on July 25, 2008 at 2:23 AM
No, I think that's something I will look into now, just get a rough idea what it is about on the Internet. A lot of the Eastern religions are pretty much philosophies anyway, aren't they ? or am I incorrect about this ?
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